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      01-15-2013, 03:58 AM   #23
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I dont understand why on earth the front&rear bumpers on the 4 SE have been made to look so much more modern, exotic and meaner than the 4 msport or the m4 mule.. It makes the 'sporty' models look dated.

Most BMW concepts stay surprisingly unchanged through to production except stance and wheels, I can't see the same happening with this one.
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      01-15-2013, 05:10 AM   #24
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love the 4, what a dream car
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believe it or not, this gran coupe is selling much more than the normal 2 door Coupe here in Dubai, the idea just works.
I don't think he was saying that a sporty version of a sedan, i.e. a gran coupe shouldn't exist, but rather that it didn't make sense from a branding/badging point of view. When the even numbered series all start making gran coupes, what will differentiate them from the odd numbered sedans aside from slight design adjustments? I think the concern may have been more so how this works from a production or marketing standpoint and less how well it sells.
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Are those M6 GC rims also available for M6 Coupe, Convertible or will it only be available as a individual option?
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I don't think he was saying that a sporty version of a sedan, i.e. a gran coupe shouldn't exist, but rather that it didn't make sense from a branding/badging point of view. When the even numbered series all start making gran coupes, what will differentiate them from the odd numbered sedans aside from slight design adjustments? I think the concern may have been more so how this works from a production or marketing standpoint and less how well it sells.
We are used to seeing our coupes based on the sedan. BMW wants the even numbered series to be a stand alone model and not just a coupe version of the odd numbered sedans. The grand coupes will have influences from the even numbered series. I think its brilliant and totally necessary with the popularity of the category.
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Still not sure how I feel about the front bumper. I'd like to see some interior pics as well.
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hey man...
i wasn't too keen on the idea when Audi brought out their A7 a few years ago but i think the whole idea is catching on.

also...if you've not had a chance to drive the GC, you need do. the 650GC is an AMAZINGLY balanced vehicle and it feels like you're on rails. In a lot of ways it reminds me of the e60 550.




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This "gran coupe" thing is really stupid. It's either a two door coupe or it's a four door sedan. All the even numbers are suppose to be "coupes", but why have a 4 door coupe? Why not just make the M6 a two door coupe and an M7 a four door "gran coupe"(SEDAN).

Gran Coupe with four doors is like having a Mini Sedan with two doors, I don't get the point.

It's "sleeker" bla bla.
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      01-15-2013, 07:58 AM   #30
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Love the new 4 series. I'm torn between a 440i or the diesel iteration coming (allegedly). Also what's the new M4 going to look like? Really excited to see this car in production and in person later this year!!
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It's true that the front bumper of the BMW 4-series looks like the new Mercredes E63...
Probably the other way around given that 4 series has been out for a month or so and merc has came out just few days ago.
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It's true that the front bumper of the BMW 4-series looks like the new Mercredes E63...
Holy Crap..
nearly identical bumper design..whats up with that?
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My point is, why buy an M7 or even make one? If you're just going to create the even series with 4 doors and call them "Gran Coupes" what's the point of making a less sexy sedan that has the same number of doors?
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It's true that the front bumper of the BMW 4-series looks like the new Mercredes E63...
Indeed, and I bet the production 4 series will look much more " normal" than this concept version.
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This "gran coupe" thing is really stupid. It's either a two door coupe or it's a four door sedan. All the even numbers are suppose to be "coupes", but why have a 4 door coupe? Why not just make the M6 a two door coupe and an M7 a four door "gran coupe"(SEDAN).

Gran Coupe with four doors is like having a Mini Sedan with two doors, I don't get the point.

It's "sleeker" bla bla.
the word coupe doesn't necessarily only refer to a car with 2 doors. it has more to do with the shape and the roofline.

the 6 GC is the same shape as the coupe just with two extra doors instead of being a "sleeker" four door.
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The 4 is an amazing looking concept....unfortunately all those blings wont trickle into the production model.This is something that always bothered me.The concepts /3rd party concept sketches look much better than the production models.
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This "gran coupe" thing is really stupid. It's either a two door coupe or it's a four door sedan. All the even numbers are suppose to be "coupes", but why have a 4 door coupe? Why not just make the M6 a two door coupe and an M7 a four door "gran coupe"(SEDAN).

Gran Coupe with four doors is like having a Mini Sedan with two doors, I don't get the point.

It's "sleeker" bla bla.
the word coupe doesn't necessarily only refer to a car with 2 doors. it has more to do with the shape and the roofline.

the 6 GC is the same shape as the coupe just with two extra doors instead of being a "sleeker" four door.
Why does the M6 GranCoupe not have a rear spoiler?

It seems like an odd omission since the M6 Coupe and M5 both have rear spoilers.
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It's true that the front bumper of the BMW 4-series looks like the new Mercredes E63...
Holy Crap..
nearly identical bumper design..whats up with that?
Absolutely nothing... 4-series is beautiful & E63 is not bad ! My opinion...
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now lets see how the 4 series will really look like... judging from the spy photos nothing like this
Yeah, there is a long list of features on this car that are not on the production model.

Not sure the thinking behind revealing a concept. It leads to a let down for the production version. Doesn't matter what car you are talking about, they never live up to the concept.
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