interesting problem with xenons

sandman0615 · 08-23-2010, 09:55 PM

So ive had the depo p90s on since they came out, and love them as i'm sure most others do.

Interestingly however, a few days ago i noticed the drivers side xenon wasnt on. The high beams and side markers etc were all still working, so i tried turning the headlights on/off with the switch, and the driver's side still stayed off. when i got to a stop sign, i turned the car off and on and voila both headlights working fine.

Everything was completely fine for about two weeks, but when driving home tonight, the same thing happened. After restarting the car it went out after a few mins, restart and again. Now it pretty much won't stay on.

I'm gonna try swapping out cancellers, ballasts, etc to isolate the problem, but does anyone have any ideas as to what this may be? maybe the bulb is out? its 6000k from jlevisw. Not sure what type but i know its not D1S

any help would be appreciated

SV Concepts II · 08-24-2010, 11:57 AM

Bulb type is H7 I believe, try swapping the ballasts/cancel units to see if it doesn't replicate the problem and keep us posted.

sandman0615 · 08-25-2010, 12:42 AM

gona check it out tomorrow, was working fine earlier this evening but very problematic just now...argh

anyone have thoughts?

The_DDub · 08-25-2010, 11:54 AM

Check all the connections first and make sure they are making good contact with each other. That includes the part where you connect the loose blade plugs to the factory H7 connector for power.

Here is a link with some good vids and troubleshooting guides.
http://www.carhidkits.com/index.php?...allation_guide

sandman0615 · 08-25-2010, 03:59 PM

thanks for the info, that site is great. i just swapped the cancellers, so we'll see if one of those was faulty. I checked all wiring, it felt like the problematic headlight's harness may have been a smidge loose on one side, prolly negligible, possibly just in my head, but i tightened it up anyways

We'll see tonight what happens, i'll keep everyone posted in case anyone else gets this prob

exclusivo · 08-25-2010, 10:44 PM

sounds like the ballast is going. it starts with the light going out, and then coming on at random times, or when you turn them on and off. eventually it will just full die and not come on anymore. swap the ballast from the working light to the problem light and see if it lights up. i have mastered this from dealing with e90 andyy

sandman0615 · 09-11-2010, 02:48 PM

well i switched the error cancellers after my last post, left to right and vice versa. believe it or not the problematic light switched to the passenger side. same symptoms, but it seems to be getting worse and more frequent. i am not sure exactly how the cancelers work, but im going to buy a replacement set and that should solve the problem.

really hope its not the ballast. has anyone else experienced problems like this with the p90 set? if not i think its pretty safe to assume its the cancelers as well

sandman0615 · 09-11-2010, 02:52 PM

considering the canceller is just resistors and capacitors and what not (which i dont know too much about) does anyone thing its possible to replace and resolder the components with new ones from radio shack? rather than having to have no usable headlight for a month while i wait on shipping from china

SharpPointyStick · 09-12-2010, 10:55 PM

Noticed that Jlevi SW has a error canceling unit for the P90, might be able to get faster delivery then from china? Maybe something to look into too...

mynewbmw · 09-16-2010, 10:58 PM

BUMP!!! Just got my P90 today looks great and everything but one side of my HID keeps turning off after like 30secs.......I am experiencing the EXACT same problem as Sand Man. Please someone with techinical knowledge HELP! Thanks in advance.

sandman0615 · 09-17-2010, 12:48 AM

UPDATE i got the new cancellers in the mail today and it solved the problem. needless to say i'm extremely relieved that it wasnt a ballast or headlight issue which would have been considerably more expensive. even tho i ordered from a different guy, its the exact same unit as im sure 99% of the ebay ones are. luckily i ordered an extra so i'll be ready in case another fails on me.

these are the specific ones i ordered, soley because the description promises delivery in 3 days no matter what. i ordered on sunday and had them thurs so id say thats about right

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ht_1810wt_1167

BimmerProject · 09-17-2010, 02:26 AM

Contact Jay and Damon, they have a canceler they use for their conversion that can fit inside the headlight. Suppose to have a direct connect with a manufacture that strictly works with them on bmw e90 lighting. Those are the old cancelers and the new ones are same size as the AAA battery.

alfaroe2 · 09-23-2010, 09:47 AM

Hey sandman, how long did your setup last before you started experiencing problems?

08-23-2010, 09:55 PM	#1
sandman0615 bimmer freak 98 Rep 579 Posts Drives: F30 335xi 6MT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (2)	interesting problem with xenons - DEPO p90 So ive had the depo p90s on since they came out, and love them as i'm sure most others do. Interestingly however, a few days ago i noticed the drivers side xenon wasnt on. The high beams and side markers etc were all still working, so i tried turning the headlights on/off with the switch, and the driver's side still stayed off. when i got to a stop sign, i turned the car off and on and voila both headlights working fine. Everything was completely fine for about two weeks, but when driving home tonight, the same thing happened. After restarting the car it went out after a few mins, restart and again. Now it pretty much won't stay on. I'm gonna try swapping out cancellers, ballasts, etc to isolate the problem, but does anyone have any ideas as to what this may be? maybe the bulb is out? its 6000k from jlevisw. Not sure what type but i know its not D1S any help would be appreciated __________________ F30 335xi 6MT \| E90 325xi 6MT \| RIP E46 330xi \|\|DIY: DEPO P90\|\|
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08-24-2010, 11:57 AM	#2
SV Concepts II 269 Rep 6,093 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 1460 White Oaks Rd. Suite F Campbell, CA 95008 iTrader: (7)	Bulb type is H7 I believe, try swapping the ballasts/cancel units to see if it doesn't replicate the problem and keep us posted.
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08-25-2010, 12:42 AM	#3
sandman0615 bimmer freak 98 Rep 579 Posts Drives: F30 335xi 6MT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (2)	gona check it out tomorrow, was working fine earlier this evening but very problematic just now...argh anyone have thoughts? __________________ F30 335xi 6MT \| E90 325xi 6MT \| RIP E46 330xi \|\|DIY: DEPO P90\|\|
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08-25-2010, 11:54 AM	#4
The_DDub Mmmm torque 19 Rep 318 Posts Drives: Like a Boss, hard and fast Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Livermore, CA iTrader: (5) Garage List 2007 328i Sedan [0.00]	Check all the connections first and make sure they are making good contact with each other. That includes the part where you connect the loose blade plugs to the factory H7 connector for power. Here is a link with some good vids and troubleshooting guides. http://www.carhidkits.com/index.php?...allation_guide __________________ Monaco Blue E90 328i with Nav, Sport, Premium and Comfort Access packages, 6FL with iPod cable SAE spec Depo with HIDs and HID fogs Depo AE replacement Album Last edited by The_DDub; 08-25-2010 at 01:06 PM..
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08-25-2010, 03:59 PM	#5
sandman0615 bimmer freak 98 Rep 579 Posts Drives: F30 335xi 6MT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (2)	thanks for the info, that site is great. i just swapped the cancellers, so we'll see if one of those was faulty. I checked all wiring, it felt like the problematic headlight's harness may have been a smidge loose on one side, prolly negligible, possibly just in my head, but i tightened it up anyways We'll see tonight what happens, i'll keep everyone posted in case anyone else gets this prob __________________ F30 335xi 6MT \| E90 325xi 6MT \| RIP E46 330xi \|\|DIY: DEPO P90\|\|
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08-25-2010, 10:44 PM	#6
exclusivo Lieutenant Colonel 126 Rep 1,893 Posts Drives: race car Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: queens, ny iTrader: (11)	sounds like the ballast is going. it starts with the light going out, and then coming on at random times, or when you turn them on and off. eventually it will just full die and not come on anymore. swap the ballast from the working light to the problem light and see if it lights up. i have mastered this from dealing with e90 andyy
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09-11-2010, 02:48 PM	#7
sandman0615 bimmer freak 98 Rep 579 Posts Drives: F30 335xi 6MT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (2)	well i switched the error cancellers after my last post, left to right and vice versa. believe it or not the problematic light switched to the passenger side. same symptoms, but it seems to be getting worse and more frequent. i am not sure exactly how the cancelers work, but im going to buy a replacement set and that should solve the problem. really hope its not the ballast. has anyone else experienced problems like this with the p90 set? if not i think its pretty safe to assume its the cancelers as well __________________ F30 335xi 6MT \| E90 325xi 6MT \| RIP E46 330xi \|\|DIY: DEPO P90\|\|
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09-11-2010, 02:52 PM	#8
sandman0615 bimmer freak 98 Rep 579 Posts Drives: F30 335xi 6MT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (2)	considering the canceller is just resistors and capacitors and what not (which i dont know too much about) does anyone thing its possible to replace and resolder the components with new ones from radio shack? rather than having to have no usable headlight for a month while i wait on shipping from china __________________ F30 335xi 6MT \| E90 325xi 6MT \| RIP E46 330xi \|\|DIY: DEPO P90\|\|
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09-12-2010, 10:55 PM	#9
SharpPointyStick Second Lieutenant 34 Rep 273 Posts Drives: 2006 Alpine White 323i (E90) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Vancouver BC iTrader: (2)	Noticed that Jlevi SW has a error canceling unit for the P90, might be able to get faster delivery then from china? Maybe something to look into too...
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09-16-2010, 10:58 PM	#10
mynewbmw Private First Class 37 Rep 122 Posts Drives: F33 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: canada iTrader: (0)	BUMP!!! Just got my P90 today looks great and everything but one side of my HID keeps turning off after like 30secs.......I am experiencing the EXACT same problem as Sand Man. Please someone with techinical knowledge HELP! Thanks in advance.
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09-17-2010, 12:48 AM	#11
sandman0615 bimmer freak 98 Rep 579 Posts Drives: F30 335xi 6MT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (2)	UPDATE i got the new cancellers in the mail today and it solved the problem. needless to say i'm extremely relieved that it wasnt a ballast or headlight issue which would have been considerably more expensive. even tho i ordered from a different guy, its the exact same unit as im sure 99% of the ebay ones are. luckily i ordered an extra so i'll be ready in case another fails on me. these are the specific ones i ordered, soley because the description promises delivery in 3 days no matter what. i ordered on sunday and had them thurs so id say thats about right http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ht_1810wt_1167 __________________ F30 335xi 6MT \| E90 325xi 6MT \| RIP E46 330xi \|\|DIY: DEPO P90\|\|
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09-17-2010, 02:26 AM	#12
BimmerProject Banned 21 Rep 339 Posts Drives: bmw e90 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	Contact Jay and Damon, they have a canceler they use for their conversion that can fit inside the headlight. Suppose to have a direct connect with a manufacture that strictly works with them on bmw e90 lighting. Those are the old cancelers and the new ones are same size as the AAA battery.
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09-23-2010, 09:47 AM	#13
alfaroe2 Private 4 Rep 81 Posts Drives: Black Sapphire Beauty Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: New jersey iTrader: (0)	Hey sandman, how long did your setup last before you started experiencing problems?
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