[ranthum]

So I wanted to put together a parts list and start piecing a system together. I don't really want to buy an off the shelf kit as I would like a single controller to do both the nitrous and meth. I'm looking to run 50/50 meth through a 1000cc nozzle and a small shot of nitrous. Ideally both would be triggered off rpm, boost psi, and throttle position.

I was hoping the torqbyte controller would do what I need. I would appreciate if somebody with experience with one would chime in.

Other than that I think I will need the following:

Nitrous bottle
Bottle warmer
Braided line to solenoid
Solenoid (maybe NX?)
Nylon line to nozzle
Nozzle

Meth tank
Pump (thinking devil's own)
Nylon line
Solenoid (or check valve)
1000cc nozzle

Thoughts? Any feedback or guidance would be appreciated.

[335dlci]

I lovr my torqbyte unit

[Adieu]

Drugs r fun

[335dsleeper]

Op- looks like you have a good plan. You should be able to trigger the nitrous soleniod with torqbyte as well.

[Torgus]

I would trigger it off of PSI but do what you will.

Might as well just do direct port if you want to do it correctly. You can buy a metal manifold with all the bungs etc already there for you.

[ranthum]

I don't think direct port is necessary for diesel, but I'm still learning. Also looking at getting an egt and 0-5v converter. I want the torqbyte to kill the nitrous if the exhaust gets too hot. Maybe have to do it through a relay. I don't think it would be necessary to kill the meth if I'm doing a 50/50 and I believe the water would mostly offset the increased egts caused by the meth.

[335dsleeper]

Direct port? How big of shot do you think the OP would run? I don’t see direct port being necessary or even possible unless you were spraying a huge amount of nitrous. For a 50-100 shot, a single dry nozzle is more than plenty.

[335dsleeper]

You might want to run a higher ratio of meth. Not sure how 50/50 would hold up when spraying nitrous. Not sure if the water would freeze or not.

Originally Posted by ranthum

I don't think direct port is necessary for diesel, but I'm still learning. Also looking at getting an egt and 0-5v converter. I want the torqbyte to kill the nitrous if the exhaust gets too hot. Maybe have to do it through a relay. I don't think it would be necessary to kill the meth if I'm doing a 50/50 and I believe the water would mostly offset the increased egts caused by the meth.

[Torgus]

Sorry I thought this was the N54 section. As long as you are not using the meth for fueling CP should be fine.

[335dsleeper]

Not that it’s needed with a diesel but, why can’t he use meth for additional fueling?

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by 335dsleeper

Not that it’s needed with a diesel but, why can’t he use meth for additional fueling?

It is a bad practice because intake manifolds do not disperse the meth 100% evenly. So certain cylinders might be more rich or lean and you will never really know because the AFRs are not per individual cylinders.

When you start relying on it for large amounts of fuel things can go south quickly as the engine can't protect itself.

[Bigg335D]

There is a community of diesel pickup owners that use meth, its not uncommon...

[335dsleeper]

This isn’t a gas engine. It’s different.

Originally Posted by Torgus

It is a bad practice because intake manifolds do not disperse the meth 100% evenly. So certain cylinders might be more rich or lean and you will never really know because the AFRs are not per individual cylinders.

When you start relying on it for large amounts of fuel things can go south quickly as the engine can't protect itself.

[Torqu3]

Just FYI, there is no intake manifold available for the M57 that is direct port injection. And no, an N54/55 manifold will not fit.

[335stoner]

what about tapping some swirl flap delete blanks?

[Torqu3]

Originally Posted by 335stoner

what about tapping some swirl flap delete blanks?

Now THAT is an awesome idea that I will mention to people and see if we can get it done.

[335stoner]

dibs on calling it "the stoner mod" lol

[ranthum]

I think the ideal water meth setup would be 2 pumps, one for 100% water injected pre turbo and one for 100% meth directly injected (swirl flap blanks is a good idea).

Being I want to run both nitrous and meth, I was planning on injecting the meth in the EGR delete. I'm debating on injecting the water meth pre turbo or in the EGR delete. Realistically I don't think increased wear on the turbines would shorten their lifespan for me (it will take me 10 years to put on another 75k miles).

[rbreding]

Originally Posted by ranthum

I think the ideal water meth setup would be 2 pumps, one for 100% water injected pre turbo and one for 100% meth directly injected (swirl flap blanks is a good idea).

Being I want to run both nitrous and meth, I was planning on injecting the meth in the EGR delete. I'm debating on injecting the water meth pre turbo or in the EGR delete. Realistically I don't think increased wear on the turbines would shorten their lifespan for me (it will take me 10 years to put on another 75k miles).

I think the going consensus was that the EGR bungs didn't give enough time for the liquid meth to vaporize and cool the air. I believe post IC at the elbow was optimal IIRC.

[335stoner]

with an intercooler you do not want to spray anything pre-turbo especially water. once the liquid hits the intercooler fins it has a great chance that not 100% will flow through causing pooling, which could lead to ingesting a large amount of unwanted liquid.

if you want to inject pre-turbo best thing to do is remove the intercooler.

[OR335d]

I was thinking of a similar project for my car this summer, but with using one or both of the DEF tanks for the Meth. I have heard many thinking about this idea, but don't find any posts about doing it. Anyone tried it yet? Thought about using the lower tank for Meth with a fill extension coming up just under the access in the trunk, turning the access panel in the trunk into a hinged panel, and then recessing the Nitro tanks into the top DEF tank space.

Please let me know if you see any red lights to stop this right away. I don't mean to hijack the thread, but would like to hop on the train.

Also, it looks like this discussion is around dry Nitro, where no additional fuel is added. It seems with a proper tune already, this wouldn't yield much more power. Anyone have actual Nitro experience on the 335d?

[dmanb2b]

Originally Posted by OR335d

I was thinking of a similar project for my car this summer, but with using one or both of the DEF tanks for the Meth. I have heard many thinking about this idea, but don't find any posts about doing it. Anyone tried it yet? Thought about using the lower tank for Meth with a fill extension coming up just under the access in the trunk, turning the access panel in the trunk into a hinged panel, and then recessing the Nitro tanks into the top DEF tank space.

Please let me know if you see any red lights to stop this right away. I don't mean to hijack the thread, but would like to hop on the train.

Also, it looks like this discussion is around dry Nitro, where no additional fuel is added. It seems with a proper tune already, this wouldn't yield much more power. Anyone have actual Nitro experience on the 335d?

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