I think i just got scammed by a e90post user?

The Dez · 01-07-2012, 09:19 PM

Well bought a JB4 from a user which has 1 positive itrader rating and almost 900 post on this site 3 weeks ago. Bought the JB4 no email back from user or call back no tracking to prove he did send it. Then he is banned now (in a weeks time) and i cant contact the user. Emailed his paypal account nothing. Well thought i would share this information, on what action i can take to get my money back. Any help is appreciated. Thanks e90

Dez

RnmEvo9 · 01-07-2012, 09:32 PM

Thebigragu99 I assume?

Yeah, that guy is a retard. Hopefully you get your jb4 if he didn't scam you.

Express · 01-07-2012, 09:45 PM

zapingosays????????

sorry, my b....

The Dez · 01-07-2012, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RnmEvo9

Thebigragu99 I assume?

Yeah, that guy is a retard. Hopefully you get your jb4 if he didn't scam you.

wow exactly the same guy.. Yeah hopefully..

kinda hoping i was a lucky one and actually shipped out the JB4. Hey benefit of the doubt? right?

Brey335i · 01-07-2012, 10:00 PM

Oh no... If you bought anything from ragu I would seriously contact paypal ASAP!

Spoolin335 · 01-07-2012, 10:02 PM

Just file a claim and hope he didnt already withdraw the money out. Paypal can lick my balls for shit like this. If the seller decides he wants to scam you, all he has to do it transfer the money as soon as you pay him and then once you file a claim there is no money to recover.

Also if you used your CC through paypal file a claim with them too.
I know because it happened to me by another scumbag e90poster.

The Dez · 01-07-2012, 10:03 PM

problem with that, most of the people here want it sent as "gift" didnt know that you cant fight a gift because is it direct payment.. like a cash advance. Already have all the information about him and about to sue if i dont get a paypal/email reply back about the refund. Bank or paypal isnt cooperating to help, but paypal did forward me his information

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E90SoFlo · 01-07-2012, 10:27 PM

If its a gift paypal will not help you.

Never use gift if you do not know who the seller is.

iBoost · 01-07-2012, 11:32 PM

hope you get it resolved soon OP and never, ever, ever send a payment as gift again. its worth paying the extra 3%

txz4 · 01-07-2012, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by express705

zapingosays????????

sorry, my b....

...guess he didnt take his own advice to drive safe

KwlAznKid · 01-08-2012, 12:13 AM

i say file paypal claim now

The Dez · 01-08-2012, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KwlAznKid

i say file paypal claim now

Cant file claim, since i put it in as gift not as a bought goods. But i did get the name and address so ill serve them with a out of state small claims

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Brey335i · 01-08-2012, 12:42 AM

Technically speaking... If you sent the money as a gift, you're out of luck. Why would you do that?

ErvGotti · 01-08-2012, 01:43 AM

No offence OP but this is a reminder to everyone that reads this tread to never send money as a gift through paypal. Quit being cheap and pay the 3%. It's alot easier to dispute and recoup your money. I've bought stuff from other members on this site without a hitch, but I've never sent the money as a gift.

On a side note I'm glad that idiot Thebigragu is banned.

KwlAznKid · 01-08-2012, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dez

Cant file claim, since i put it in as gift not as a bought goods. But i did get the name and address so ill serve them with a out of state small claims

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oh man that's rough.. well keep us posted and good luck

Express · 01-08-2012, 07:28 AM

you fucked up.

lesson learned.

ABQ325i · 01-08-2012, 09:04 AM

How much was it?

File a complaint with your local police department first, they won't do anything but the complaint of felony mail fraud will add weight when you file in the small claims court.

donovan · 01-08-2012, 09:54 AM

File claim, see what happens, if nothing then begin to cry.

Q4P · 01-08-2012, 01:27 PM

Well I think everyone can agree that Bigragu99 is a complete idiot but I wouldn't automatically discount him as a scammer. Have you had any sort of contact with him at all regarding this purchase and then he suddenly stopped talking to you? or did you just send him the money with your info? If he's been banned; then he can't be contacted and not everyone checks their paypay e-mail; maybe he doesn't even know he has the money from anyone. Either way; this is a bad situation because I don't think you have any sort of legal ground... gifting money is just that, gifting and I doubt paypal will stand by anything you claim as this is pretty much giving money away. I mean it's definitely a lesson learned but I think you're out of luck.

ABQ325i · 01-08-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Questforpower

because I don't think you have any sort of legal ground... gifting money is just that, gifting.

If the seller sent a message saying he would send the item if the buyer sent him the money through Paypal, then completely ignored the buyer after receiving the money, the seller has committed felony mail fraud.

The whole gifting through Paypal has no consequence, it just means Paypal have no obligation to help.

Q4P · 01-08-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ABQ325i

If the seller sent a message saying he would send the item if the buyer sent him the money through Paypal, then completely ignored the buyer after receiving the money, the seller has committed felony mail fraud.

The whole gifting through Paypal has no consequence, it just means Paypal have no obligation to help.

O RLY?

Well what if seller says that he never received money for that particular item but instead received some sort of gift...? Let's remember there is no mention of product being sold when gifting. I think there is a lot of tricky issues here.

persian54 · 01-08-2012, 02:08 PM

Only gift if the seller is trustworthy.
1 iTrader and a couple hundred posts don't qualify.

But when I got my BBK, I paid a member on here half using my CC as a goods payment, and the other half as a gift (about $2000).
But he was a known member with enough iTrader and post counts.

Don't send a gift unless you trust the seller

Small claims will be hard, but it's worth doing.

Good luck

01-07-2012, 09:19 PM	#1
The Dez Second Lieutenant 13 Rep 239 Posts Drives: LMB E93 M3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: San Antonio iTrader: (4)	I think i just got scammed by a e90post user? Well bought a JB4 from a user which has 1 positive itrader rating and almost 900 post on this site 3 weeks ago. Bought the JB4 no email back from user or call back no tracking to prove he did send it. Then he is banned now (in a weeks time) and i cant contact the user. Emailed his paypal account nothing. Well thought i would share this information, on what action i can take to get my money back. Any help is appreciated. Thanks e90 Dez
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01-07-2012, 09:32 PM	#2
RnmEvo9 Banned 247 Rep 1,827 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Pembroke Pines, FL iTrader: (2)	Thebigragu99 I assume? Yeah, that guy is a retard. Hopefully you get your jb4 if he didn't scam you.
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01-07-2012, 09:45 PM	#3
Express Major General 369 Rep 8,693 Posts Drives: 06 330i Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Promise Land iTrader: (17) Garage List 2006 BMW 330i [8.30]	zapingosays???????? sorry, my b....
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01-07-2012, 10:00 PM	#5
Brey335i Banned 112 Rep 4,771 Posts Drives: e46 ///M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (11)	Oh no... If you bought anything from ragu I would seriously contact paypal ASAP!
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01-07-2012, 10:02 PM	#6
Spoolin335 Justin Herass 333 Rep 1,205 Posts Drives: X6M / M3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada iTrader: (7) Garage List 2015 BMW M3 [0.00] 2012 Audi TTRS [10.00] 2012 BMW X6M [9.00] 2007 BMW 335i [9.00]	Just file a claim and hope he didnt already withdraw the money out. Paypal can lick my balls for shit like this. If the seller decides he wants to scam you, all he has to do it transfer the money as soon as you pay him and then once you file a claim there is no money to recover. Also if you used your CC through paypal file a claim with them too. I know because it happened to me by another scumbag e90poster. __________________
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01-07-2012, 10:03 PM	#7
The Dez Second Lieutenant 13 Rep 239 Posts Drives: LMB E93 M3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: San Antonio iTrader: (4)	problem with that, most of the people here want it sent as "gift" didnt know that you cant fight a gift because is it direct payment.. like a cash advance. Already have all the information about him and about to sue if i dont get a paypal/email reply back about the refund. Bank or paypal isnt cooperating to help, but paypal did forward me his information .
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01-07-2012, 10:27 PM	#8
E90SoFlo Banned 196 Rep 2,669 Posts Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Naples, FL iTrader: (9)	If its a gift paypal will not help you. Never use gift if you do not know who the seller is.
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01-07-2012, 11:32 PM	#9
iBoost Retired e90post Member 135 Rep 3,038 Posts Drives: real slow Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (13)	hope you get it resolved soon OP and never, ever, ever send a payment as gift again. its worth paying the extra 3%
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01-08-2012, 12:13 AM	#11
KwlAznKid Brigadier General 354 Rep 3,036 Posts Drives: BMW/MERCEDES/PORSCHE Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Los Angeles/Fremont USC/UCSD Alum iTrader: (6)	i say file paypal claim now __________________ BMW E93 M3 / Mercedes Benz W209 CLK500 BMW E64 650I(sold) / BMW E92 328I(sold) / BMW E46 M3(sold) / BMW E92 335I(sold) Porsche 996 911 C2(sold) / BMW E46 325CI(totaled)
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01-08-2012, 12:42 AM	#13
Brey335i Banned 112 Rep 4,771 Posts Drives: e46 ///M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (11)	Technically speaking... If you sent the money as a gift, you're out of luck. Why would you do that?
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01-08-2012, 01:43 AM	#14
ErvGotti Major 124 Rep 1,362 Posts Drives: 2008 135i 6MT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Aviano iTrader: (5) Garage List 2008 135i [6.00]	No offence OP but this is a reminder to everyone that reads this tread to never send money as a gift through paypal. Quit being cheap and pay the 3%. It's alot easier to dispute and recoup your money. I've bought stuff from other members on this site without a hitch, but I've never sent the money as a gift. On a side note I'm glad that idiot Thebigragu is banned.
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01-08-2012, 07:28 AM	#16
Express Major General 369 Rep 8,693 Posts Drives: 06 330i Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: The Promise Land iTrader: (17) Garage List 2006 BMW 330i [8.30]	you fucked up. lesson learned.
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01-08-2012, 09:04 AM	#17
ABQ325i Private First Class 14 Rep 158 Posts Drives: 08 E60 535i + 06 E90 330i Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Albuquerque iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 535i [0.00] 2006 330i [0.00]	How much was it? File a complaint with your local police department first, they won't do anything but the complaint of felony mail fraud will add weight when you file in the small claims court.
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01-08-2012, 09:54 AM	#18
donovan Brigadier General 371 Rep 4,167 Posts Drives: R8 - Ford Raptor Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: National iTrader: (17)	File claim, see what happens, if nothing then begin to cry. __________________ Audi R8 v10 Ford Raptor m3e46freak@yahoo.comfor all euro parts!! ebay/craigslist verified/ m3post/e46fanantics/m3forum/zpost/bimmerforum
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01-08-2012, 01:27 PM	#19
Q4P Colonel 83 Rep 2,291 Posts Drives: Too Much Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: World iTrader: (0)	Well I think everyone can agree that Bigragu99 is a complete idiot but I wouldn't automatically discount him as a scammer. Have you had any sort of contact with him at all regarding this purchase and then he suddenly stopped talking to you? or did you just send him the money with your info? If he's been banned; then he can't be contacted and not everyone checks their paypay e-mail; maybe he doesn't even know he has the money from anyone. Either way; this is a bad situation because I don't think you have any sort of legal ground... gifting money is just that, gifting and I doubt paypal will stand by anything you claim as this is pretty much giving money away. I mean it's definitely a lesson learned but I think you're out of luck. __________________ 2jZ + RB26 + 4G63 + LS9 + N54 =
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01-08-2012, 02:08 PM	#22
persian54 Lieutenant General 922 Rep 15,818 Posts Drives: M760/G83M4 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Valley, SoCal iTrader: (298)	Only gift if the seller is trustworthy. 1 iTrader and a couple hundred posts don't qualify. But when I got my BBK, I paid a member on here half using my CC as a goods payment, and the other half as a gift (about $2000). But he was a known member with enough iTrader and post counts. Don't send a gift unless you trust the seller Small claims will be hard, but it's worth doing. Good luck __________________ From E93 335i to E89 Z4 to E93 M3/E89 Z4 to E350/SL550
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