[AlB]

Even if it's 100% of torque is available at >0RPM. I actually test drove one while shopping for my 330 (I have an 80 mile commute). They are ugly, cheap, plasticky, tacky, uncomfortable, crappy build quality vehicles.

As to their greeness, they are harder on the environment than gas or diesel due to the fact that you have to dispose of the batteries at some point which is far more toxic than any modern gas or diesel. BMW are made from 100% recyclable materials, this is a law in Germany and if you take your door panels or trim pieces off you will see the little recycle symbols telling you which bin it goes in. Thats pretty green, and it also contrbutes to the lack of plasticky smells that you smell in all of the imports from asia

[semler3]

I think most of the posts are by Al Gore's son....AND we deffinitely know he was smoking!!

What they all fail to mention is that NONE OF THE OTHER CARS knew that they were in a race.

[T Bone]

Originally Posted by gum5h03

That's it! From now on I'm gonna show those grannies and tree huggers what a BWM can do at every stop light - whether they like it (or know it)or not. Forget the STI's, Evo's ,etc. My sights are now set on the Toyota Prius!

Since you are from Washington, visit your nearest granola store and stuff your tailpipes with it (make sure it has cranberries) and feed them to the next Prius you see on the road

[Potty_Pants]

uh guys... do a search for prius performance mod.

I saw it awhile ago... in essence you cut some wires (has something to do with voltage regulation) and you now have full access to the entire battery @ 100%... instead of max 10%... ultimately if you do the mod it will make the car get shitty gas mileage (really really bad) but turn it into a 5 sec car with wider rims.

Edit: kinda like toy cars... they have 4 double aa's and they are replaced with a 9v.

ppp

[DCJAX]

Originally Posted by KL2DC

well once the general american public get over the hang ups on diesel, they'd find hybrids to be an overcomplex and unnecessary solution. Modern diesel cars are the way to go I believe.

Plug in hybrids are great, electricity is dirt cheap and can be produced from clean tech (solar, wind etc.)

I'd like to see a plug in hybrid with a disiel engine acting as the backup generator.

[toofasttooslow]

Originally Posted by T Bone

Since you are from Washington, visit your nearest granola store and stuff your tailpipes with it (make sure it has cranberries) and feed them to the next Prius you see on the road

No freaking doubt. Plenty o' tree hugging hippies driving Prius(pl. Prii?) and such here in this 'green' state. Sometimes they really piss me off. Don't they know that trying to save the environment/world doesn't make a damn bit of difference? I mean, isn't it supposed to end in 2012 anyway? Joke's on them.

[Lassaxi]

Originally Posted by DanMardik

They're probably looking at this thread right now and laughing their asses off

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Beerflakes]

Max horsepower @ rpm 76 @ 5000
Max torque @ rpm 82 @ 4200

0-30 mph 3.1
0-40 mph 4.9
0-50 mph 7.1
0-60 mph 9.8
0-70 mph 13.3
0-80 mph 16.9

WTF are they on?

[OC Guy]

Originally Posted by LEDZEP

Nice tortise and hare comparison!

Otherwise, a completely useless topic.

+1

[DasBlitz]

Originally Posted by LEDZEP

Seems our OP is easily offended and quick to snap. Congrats sir, you have made it to my distiguished ignore list. Feel free to add me to yours anytime.

ok, just in case you are yet again trying to be cool and really didnt put me on the ignore list. I think someone who is a great deal older than me isn't acting it.

To whoever else thinks this thread is useless then move on. Many find it amusing that owners of Prius' think they are driving race cars. But as stated this is similar to how some act on here

[semler3]

Originally Posted by Moze

Max horsepower @ rpm 76 @ 5000
Max torque @ rpm 82 @ 4200

0-30 mph 3.1
0-40 mph 4.9
0-50 mph 7.1
0-60 mph 9.8
0-70 mph 13.3
0-80 mph 16.9

WTF are they on?

Well, according to MSN NBC: "Al Gore III, 24, was driving a blue Toyota Prius about 100 mph on the San Diego Freeway when he was pulled over at about 2:15 a.m., Sheriff’s Department spokesman Jim Amormino said. The deputies said they smelled marijuana and searched the car, Amormino said. They found less than an ounce of marijuana along with Xanax, Valium, Vicodin and Adderall..."

[Pretender]

I like to register to post msg over there: "STFU, you buch of idiodic retards"...god damn these guys were probably on drug.

[murellus]

TOYOTA PRIUS KILL:

so i'm at this red light and this prius pulls up next to me and starts revving. the light turns green and he peels out and i'm like wtf so i slam on the gas and beat him by the time i reached 30mph.


i'm awesome.

[toofasttooslow]

They should watch this video, stop smoking the green and come back to reality.

[ALPINE6SPD]

Originally Posted by LEDZEP

Seems our OP is easily offended and quick to snap. Congrats sir, you have made it to my distiguished ignore list. Feel free to add me to yours anytime.

[T Bone]

Originally Posted by gum5h03

They should watch this video, stop smoking the green and come back to reality.

I almost pee myself everytime I watch this vid...... Oh to dream of opening up on a Pruis with Ma-Deuce.......

[KL2DC]

Originally Posted by DCJAX

Plug in hybrids are great, electricity is dirt cheap and can be produced from clean tech (solar, wind etc.)

I'd like to see a plug in hybrid with a disiel engine acting as the backup generator.

nice

[aspiring335]

Originally Posted by tctic

The manufacturing energy requirement is also much higher. It is once said that the life of a Prius compared to a Hummer, the Prius actually consumes more energy from earth than the Hummer. So really it's just a shift in pollution exhaust. The manufacturing and disposal of the batteries in the hybrids is also a very major environmental issue.

I think hybrids are overhyped, too, but the research that showed a hybrid to consume more energy compared to some SUVs, including the Hummer, was a little skewed. First it divided the energy used in developing the Prius only across the Priuses sold to date, and the costs of building factories, etc. in the same fashion. Second it assumed that Priuses would last only for 100,000 miles. That may be true of the batteries, but not the car itself. I don't imagine they'll be crushing every Prius on the day it hits 100K.

Since the Prius hasn't been around for long, and the technology under the hood is almost equally new, the results of such studies are skewed dramatically in favor of old designs using old technology. Clearly Toyota is going to leverage this energy and dollar investment over many hybrids for many years to come, and as it does so the math used in comparing the Hummer to the Prius will become more and more inaccurate. The most energy efficient vehicle produced according to this study was the Jeep Wrangler, simply by virtue of it being an ancient design.

[TiAg335i]

HEY Prius onwers, last time I chdcked you had something very close to 70lbs torque and 80HP at the rear wheels...now THAT is something to brag about. Get back to us when you get in the triple digits.

[achien]

why "pop" their bubbles? let them live in their "paradise"...

[fidozoom]

I don't know if the guys on that prius board are smoking pot but let's not call the prius a tortoise. its electric engine is capable of 295 lb/ft at 400 rpm. no wonder some of the fastest cars like the tesla are based off an electric engine. i don't think the 335 vs. the prius would be a hands down for the 335 especially given the 335's poor throttle response.

[wrickem]

Originally Posted by achien

why "pop" their bubbles? let them live in their "paradise"...

But can they please do it in the right lane?!