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      03-27-2024, 11:12 PM   #397
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The idea that people still think there is a driver out there that can compete with Max is hilarious to me.
there is, there are a lot of karters who are on the same pace as max. but cant progress to Formula 4-2 with out money.
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Sainz and Ric (up to until he went to MCL where Lando did it) were not destroyed. 3, 4, and 5 were.
It was only a matter of time , they would be destroyed too .
RIC knew that , that's why he moved to McLaren..
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... that's why he moved to McLaren..
Nope...he moved to Renault (where they paid him more than twice as much than what he was getting at RedBull).
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I'm not sure if you are serious but if you are then I think you are wrong.
That's fine. I'd appreciate understanding your perspective though, if you'd care to share.

I'm not suggesting that the two drivers are equal, but that they'd fit into the team in the same way. I don't think Fernando would challenge Max, or even really want to challenge Max. They'd swap a #2 driver for another #2 driver. A younger Fernando and current Max? That would be a different situation.
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That's fine. I'd appreciate understanding your perspective though, if you'd care to share.

I'm not suggesting that the two drivers are equal, but that they'd fit into the team in the same way. I don't think Fernando would challenge Max, or even really want to challenge Max. They'd swap a #2 driver for another #2 driver. A younger Fernando and current Max? That would be a different situation.
I have no doubt ALO will go in there with the mindset of winning the championship and beating Max. What will actually happen is....we will know if it actually happens first. Obviously he is much more mature now and does have a very good relationship with Max which MAY prevent a full blown ALO-HAM or NICO-HAM saga.

Along the same topic, I am seeing more than a few articles, whether tabloid, rumours, or a situation where journalists are writing articles to get attention but have no basis whatsoever, that Christian Horner has always been a fan of ALO and is working to get him a seat at RB while Marko is warning Horner that it is not going to work out if he does get ALO.
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I have no doubt ALO will go in there with the mindset of winning the championship and beating Max. What will actually happen is....we will know if it actually happens first. Obviously he is much more mature now and does have a very good relationship with Max which MAY prevent a full blown ALO-HAM or NICO-HAM saga.

Along the same topic, I am seeing more than a few articles, whether tabloid, rumours, or a situation where journalists are writing articles to get attention but have no basis whatsoever, that Christian Horner has always been a fan of ALO and is working to get him a seat at RB while Marko is warning Horner that it is not going to work out if he does get ALO.
I love Nando, but even he has weekends where he is slower than *gulp* his nepo baby teammate. Not many, but it does happen. Max would eat him alive at this point in his career. Only driver on the grid who would threaten Max is Charles IMO, but it looks like we will never see that happen, unfortunately.
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I love Nando, but even he has weekends where he is slower than *gulp* his nepo baby teammate. Not many, but it does happen. Max would eat him alive at this point in his career. Only driver on the grid who would threaten Max is Charles IMO, but it looks like we will never see that happen, unfortunately.
My point was not about about him beating Max but him willingly coming in to be Driver #2 to Max, which he won't do.

He knows what Max is capable of as he's one of Max's fans but I would be shocked if he does go to Red Bull with the mindset that, yeah, his faster than me so I'll just play a supporting/team role. That would be a total 180 degree to his stature, again I find almost impossible to happen.
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To Carlos or not to Carlos, that is the question.
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Nope...he moved to Renault (where they paid him more than twice as much than what he was getting at RedBull).
That's right .
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Nope...he moved to Renault (where they paid him more than twice as much than what he was getting at RedBull).
Correct. Ricciardo moved to McLaren for the money. His seat at Red Bull was not in danger.

At McLaren he didn't enjoy the car or ran out of talent. Or both. Hopefully he enjoyed the money.
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Sainz to RB for 2025 does make the most sense, doesn't it. I mean if Riccardo can return to the team, I don't see why Sainz couldn't.
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My point was not about about him beating Max but him willingly coming in to be Driver #2 to Max, which he won't do.

He knows what Max is capable of as he's one of Max's fans but I would be shocked if he does go to Red Bull with the mindset that, yeah, his faster than me so I'll just play a supporting/team role. That would be a total 180 degree to his stature, again I find almost impossible to happen.
I see what you are saying. IMO he does still have #1 talent, just not at RB obviously. And he probably knows that so yeah, it would never work.
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I see what you are saying. IMO he does still have #1 talent, just not at RB obviously. And he probably knows that so yeah, it would never work.
Whether or not he thinks that, only he knows but by all accounts, he would literally jump on the chance to drive the Red Bull with or without Max. I would venture to say he would do it even if he took a pay cut.
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Sainz to RB for 2025 does make the most sense, doesn't it. I mean if Riccardo can return to the team, I don't see why Sainz couldn't.
I wish the best for Carlos Sainz, he did get screwed and having the last laugh doesn't pay well. I suspect that Max will have the say in who is his team mate.
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Hoping the Brembo caliper saga can be sorted, brembo are blaming teams for 'fiddling' with the components too much and there has even been suggestion of sabotage, that would thicken the plot even more.

So it looks like Sainz vs Checo in the coming races and the gloves will be off between these two of who can get better results as the season progresses.
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