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01-24-2024, 05:58 PM | #67 |
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Ya - I wanna see a mugshot of shaggy puff jacket.
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01-24-2024, 06:08 PM | #68 |
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As someone who is about to sell two BMWs… how the heck do we sell cars to avoid getting scammed like this? I thought cashiers checks were supposed to be fraud proof….
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01-24-2024, 06:27 PM | #69 |
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These days counterfeit cashier’s checks are not uncommon, so they are definitely not fraud proof. The first key is to know your buyer as well as you can. Google, Facebook, LinkedIn are your friends. As others have mentioned, if staying with a bank that has branches in your area isn’t an option then wire transfer is your best bet. If you’re comfortable with being able to identify counterfeit currency then cash could be an option.
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If I were to sell a vehicle that required a large financial transaction I would agree to meet the buyer at their bank. The bank can then have a cashier's check issued in my presence. Last edited by BeEmVe; 01-24-2024 at 07:46 PM.. |
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Glad they got the car back. I hope they catch up with the guy that stole it. Guys in Jersey know how to deal with these issues. |
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01-24-2024, 11:20 PM | #73 | |
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Kies story makes no sense. Not one sense |
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01-25-2024, 12:41 AM | #74 | |
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01-25-2024, 01:24 AM | #75 |
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If KIES was making this up, there's only downside for them. I don't see any logical reason they'd lie.
As secure as anything you think is, there is always a way thieves can find a way to work around the rules. Despite one following all the right protocols. |
01-25-2024, 05:07 AM | #76 |
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In the heydays of ebay back in the early 2000s, this kind of fraud was rampant; but instead, it was through money orders/western union. They would buy the product and send a real money gram check to you, requesting proof of shipment. The goal was for you to send the item while the bank still had a hold on the funds, then cancel the funds after the item was in the mail. Crims have appeared to graduate from money orders to cashiers checks.
Side note; the possibility this was done ‘for clicks’ makes me sick.
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01-25-2024, 05:47 AM | #77 |
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Sucks to be in that position but I mean it's 2024 and everyone really should know better by now when it comes to checks and money orders and selling/buying...don't trust anyone. As a buyer, I make it easy for sellers, cash. Most banks don't hold a lot of cash on hand but you can call ahead 24-48 hours and they will have it ready for you. If the buyer can get a cashier's check, they can get the cash.
I fly out of state to buy all of my cars via private party and there is no issue at the airport with carrying a lot of cash. I always keep the receipt with it just in case there was ever an issue, but there has never been over the many, many cars I have purchased. If there is a safety issue, meet at the bank or at a local police station to do the transaction. |
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01-25-2024, 07:12 AM | #78 |
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CASH or WIRE.
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Looks like the F80 was found and Brian posted a short clip on youtube about it while the F80 was getting loaded up on a flatbed.
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01-25-2024, 07:41 AM | #80 |
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I believe it was a youtube clip. Let me see if I can find it. He posted it last night.
Found it! https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_srNAwpjCbc
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01-25-2024, 08:41 AM | #81 |
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Glad the car was found. Kies makes awesome YouTube content for us BMW enthusiasts and seems like a genuine, good dude.
The YouTube shorts of him finding car shows his reaction as emotional and genuine, kind of hard to believe this was a PR stunt. |
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01-25-2024, 10:18 AM | #82 | |
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But this was a local, in-person transaction. A check from some tiny, distant bank should be its own red flag. For in-person transactions via cashier's check, IMO the best course of action is to go to the issuing bank, "cash" the check, and get a new check drawn on the bank issued to you. Pay the $5 or whatever fee for the check. Your transaction with the seller ends at the teller window, and you now only have one with the bank, which offers far better protections. |
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01-25-2024, 11:20 AM | #83 | |
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Explain how it makes "not one sense" to you?
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Previous cars I've sold have either been cash or a bank check.
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Wow some of you need to get a hobby. As the owner of a internet mail order company, fraud is everywhere and it gets more creative all the time. I get 2 to 5 fraud attempts a month that get through our automated securities. I catch almost all of those but I get stung once a year or so. I'm sure Bryan learned a lot of lessons during this and I think we all learned a thing or two. Now can we give the guy the benefit of the doubt?
Last hint: BeenVerified is a great way to check up on any buyer or seller. We use it all the time. It's worth the money. |
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