[BigBambu]

Can anyone share their experience for getting turbos covered when they have exceeded the 82,000 mile marker?

I currently have 86,000. Starting at 75,000 miles, I have brought my car in several times for wastegate issues, and CES lights. They never stated the problem was with the turbo units.

I recently brought the car to an indie shop who stated that the turbos should be replaced. Will I have better luck filing a report with BMW NA?

Any recommendations on how to proceed would be really helpful.

[David1]

Once you are passed the 82K your done.

[TheYuriPanda]

How much are oem turbos after no warranty? And is there a way to have an exuse to replace them before it ends? And does cpo cover it?

[spxxx]

Originally Posted by TheYuriPanda

How much are oem turbos after no warranty? And is there a way to have an exuse to replace them before it ends? And does cpo cover it?

Cpo will likely cover it. Otherwise if you're past 82k, you're probably screwed.

My indy swapped mine for a tad over $4k (covered by extended warranty) parts were about $1,900.

[BigBambu]

Originally Posted by TheYuriPanda

How much are oem turbos after no warranty? And is there a way to have an exuse to replace them before it ends? And does cpo cover it?

If I recall correctly, turbo replacement comes with about 14- 16 hours of labor. I've heard dealer estimates within the range of $3,000 - $7,000. I've heard indy shop estimates around the $2,000 - $3,000+ range.

But, if you are running a tune it would be worth your while to make sure you have turbos that can manage the increased load. I'm not sure if the turbos have been redesigned to have a stronger wastegate, but I don't want to find out the hard way. As a result, I'm also researching upgraded turbos to help me keep this car as long as possible.

[ferocity02]

I have heard that people have gotten them replaced after 82K, but it comes with a lot of arguing and haggling. It's definitely worth a shot.

If they won't do it then it's a good excuse to get some upgraded turbos.

[chepy24]

Originally Posted by spxxx

Cpo will likely cover it. Otherwise if you're past 82k, you're probably screwed.

My indy swapped mine for a tad over $4k (covered by extended warranty) parts were about $1,900.

wait you paid the rest in labor?

[spxxx]

Originally Posted by chepy24

wait you paid the rest in labor?

I personally didn't pay anything, I think labor was around $2k, paid for by my warranty company.

[chepy24]

my 2 cents it wouldnt be work replacing with stock turbos you would be better off replacing with rb or vargas turbos.... at the very very minimus a stage one upgrade but if you go with stock again.... its only a matter of time

[chepy24]

Originally Posted by spxxx

I personally didn't pay anything, I think labor was around $2k, paid for by my warranty company.

ohhh ok thats good! good thing for that warranty iv been testing my luck without one... so far so good but its only a matter of time lol

[spxxx]

Originally Posted by chepy24

ohhh ok thats good! good thing for that warranty iv been testing my luck without one... so far so good but its only a matter of time lol

Check out route 66. I've had $9k in repairs this year and they even let you cancel for a prorated refund. I have paid $400 out of pocket for taxes and oils/fluids

[chepy24]

is that something you need to add when you buy? or could you add after?

[Jklad]

Replacing turbos can be done in a day by a competent shop/dealer. Turbos can be bought for 700 each, plus some misc parts you might need/want. I'm talking rwd, it's prob a little more work for awd.

[BigBambu]

Originally Posted by spxxx

Check out route 66. I've had $9k in repairs this year and they even let you cancel for a prorated refund. I have paid $400 out of pocket for taxes and oils/fluids

Curious to hear more about your Route 66 warranty. When was it purchased and what are the terms?

[BigBambu]

Originally Posted by chepy24

my 2 cents it wouldnt be work replacing with stock turbos you would be better off replacing with rb or vargas turbos.... at the very very minimus a stage one upgrade but if you go with stock again.... its only a matter of time

Especially with the understanding that the wastegate is an area of concern. My faith in the stock setup is limited.

[chepy24]

Originally Posted by BigBambu

Especially with the understanding that the wastegate is an area of concern. My faith in the stock setup is limited.

wow... can you tell i was half asleep writing that and did not proof read lol

[tony20009]

Originally Posted by BigBambu

Can anyone share their experience for getting turbos covered when they have exceeded the 82,000 mile marker?

I currently have 86,000. Starting at 75,000 miles, I have brought my car in several times for wastegate issues, and CES lights. They never stated the problem was with the turbo units.

I recently brought the car to an indie shop who stated that the turbos should be replaced. Will I have better luck filing a report with BMW NA?

Any recommendations on how to proceed would be really helpful.

Unless the dealer believes that they didn't adequately address the wastegate issues on your prior visits to them, I think you'll be out of pocket for this fix.

The wastegate issue is the "turbo issue." (http://www.bmwblog.com/2012/08/16/n5...stegates-only/) CPO won't help you as the extended warranty coverage for the turbo wastegate supersedes any CPO coverage.

I think anything beyond the turbo wastegate is just the turbo needing to be replaced, although I can't say how plausible that actually is.

When I took my E92 in for turbo wastegate issues, their fixing it created a new problem. The new problem was a gasket/seal between the turbo assembly and "whatever it attaches to." Removing the turbochargers weakened the seal and when I slammed the gas one day, the seal gave way and tossed my car into limp mode. Turning the motor off and waiting a while cleared the warning, until I floored the gas again.

Once weakened, the car also went into limp mode when I exceeded 80mph. Apparently going that fast created enough pressure loss (?), or something, to put the car back into limp mode. I can't pretend to fully and accurately explain it, but I know what behavior I observed.

Anyway, when I took the car back to the dealer, I explained what was happening. They said that although they tested the car, they didn't drive it at speeds above 60 mph. I didn't have a problem with that and they fixed the problem. I've had no problem since then, no matter how fast I drive the car or how abruptly and hard I press the gas pedal upon "launch."

The dealer took about four days to resolve the problems. It took so long because they needed to order some of the needed parts and because the work takes a while anyway. My SA told me that were I to have paid for the repair myself, they'd have charged me some several thousand dollars. I don't now recall the exact figure, but for some reason $4K to $6K is what's in my head, but you know how that sort of "vague memory" thing works. (I know I shared this story a long time ago, and if you want the correct figure, you can search my posts for it.)


To the best of my knowledge there hasn't been anything wrong with the main turbocharger body itself.

One enjoyable aspect to the whole fiasco is that I got to tool around in a 6er. I'd expressed an interest in the 6er to the dealer long before the turbo episode occurred, so it was nice to have an extended "test drive" in one. My conclusion on that is that I like my E92 better even thought the 6er is more plush inside.



- Source: http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/turbocharger.html

The narrative you'll find accompanying that schematic pic above if nothing else gives a pretty decent picture/sense of what can go wrong with these turbochargers.

I shared the info above just to give you some sense that the issue may not in fact be the turbocharger assembly, but rather a component thereof. Whether replacing the whole thing or just a failed component will for you be the better option, I don't know. You'll need a knowledgeable mechanic whom you trust and who can look at it to speak to that aspect of the matter.

If I knew in 2007 what I know now, I would not have bought the 335i. I would have insisted on the 328i which is what I went to the car store to buy in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I love my car and it's served me well, but I still don't like living under the pall of knowing that expensive repairs may be called for out of the blue as a result of my car being turbocharged when I could have bought a non-turbocharged car. Both can have surprises appear out of nowhere, but the turbocharger is just one more thing that can contribute to the risk of being surprised.

Good luck. I hope the whole thing doesn't turn out to be inordinately expensive and time consuming to resolve.

All the best.

[924er]

Originally Posted by Jklad

Replacing turbos can be done in a day by a competent shop/dealer. Turbos can be bought for 700 each, plus some misc parts you might need/want. I'm talking rwd, it's prob a little more work for awd.

Plz tell me where I can buy each turbo for 700 thanks

[Jklad]

Originally Posted by 924er

Plz tell me where I can buy each turbo for 700 thanks

Getbmwparts or ecstuning. They will be listed for about 1200, so you pay that initially, but there is a core refund of 4-500 (can't remember off top off my head) that brings each down to around 700 once you return your blown turdbo (sic).

[Jklad]

Originally Posted by Jklad

Getbmwparts or ecstuning. They will be listed for about 1200, so you pay that initially, but there is a core refund of 4-500 (can't remember off top off my head) that brings each down to around 700 once you return your blown turdbo (sic).

Please see then other thread in here, turbos are a bit less at 595 it looks like. Good luck.