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I finally made my choice (335is –vs- M3) after test driving both… REVIEWS & PICS HERE
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06-06-2010, 03:54 AM | #90 | |
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06-06-2010, 05:18 AM | #91 | |
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Still surprised you have that lag issue. Maybe it is something related to the software, don't know, but I do not have such issue when driving away and for sure not when rolling. You should really try the paddles or, if you don't like them, the gearlever. Pushing forward to shift back, pulling the shift up. Great feeling, immediate response (not like in an automatic), and nice rev matching with popping exhaust when shifting back Cool the dealer gave you the possibility. Here they would never let you drive a new car which is for sale, you can only drive a demo car. |
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06-06-2010, 07:56 AM | #92 | |
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So....why did you go DCT??? |
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06-06-2010, 08:36 AM | #93 |
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Because I used to have a manual, and I nearly wore my arm out with the repetitive motion of arm shifting and leg clutch pumping in city traffic.
Besides, the M-DCT shifts way more efficiently than I would ever hope to be able to with a manual. |
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06-06-2010, 08:38 AM | #94 | |
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Who knows. If you are taking delivery in the very near future of a 335is with DCT, PLEASE follow up and post your driving impressions on this thread. I'm very interested in seeing the results come in. |
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06-06-2010, 05:27 PM | #95 |
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06-06-2010, 06:10 PM | #96 |
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I guess what I'm trying to say is that the accelleration for the 335is came without a huge load roar like the M3. It seemed more smooth and effortless for the car to get up to speed. I did hear the turbos making the whoosh noise, but it wasn't nearly as loud as the M3 growl as it accellerated. It does also feel indeed like a lighter car, although 150 pounds isn't very much to be able to notice.
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06-06-2010, 08:16 PM | #97 | |
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06-07-2010, 10:46 AM | #99 | |
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06-07-2010, 11:07 AM | #100 |
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Congrats! You made an excellent choice Loved your in-depth review. Can't believe I didn't see this before.. I saw/contributed to your first thread.
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06-07-2010, 11:26 AM | #101 |
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Thanks. I have heard from at least 3 people who are taking delivery of their 335is Coupe's this week, and I've been asking all of them to post their own driving impressions on this thread, so stay tuned for more fun!
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06-23-2010, 05:43 PM | #106 |
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I held back from test driving any M3 when I was car shopping. It would be opening up a giant can of worms (wallet) for me.
That being said, I agree like 98% with your review about the 335is. I've had my DCT 335is for one week today and have logged 525 miles on it so far which is ridiculous considering that my office is 1.3 miles away from my home. I can't speak to the effect of auto mode on the DCT since I paddle shift almost every single shift no matter how I am driving. Mainly because it's my only way to really have any connection and input with an automatic transmission and also to always vary the rpm's through break-in. The practicality of the power in the 335is blows me away. My favorite is a rolling 2nd gear 35 mph to immediate gas pedal flooring. The turbos are in the sweet spot and the car just lurches forward and does not stop. At about 3800 rpms the exhaust makes a very loud waling noise and echos very loudly off city buildings. (Not the actual note of the exhaust, but the sudden difference in sound when you hit this power band is not unlike what you hear when an F430 is quietly cruising at 15 mph and suddenly gas is increased) The shifts are lightning quick and the exhaust pops with unburnt fuel echoing out the mufflers when shifting up while keeping the gas pedal depressed. Downshifts are almost a perfect automatic rev-match with virtually no jerk at all. A deaf person would never know when you were downshifting as you slow to a stop. I also really enjoy the fact that the car will always shift down to 1 in any mode you are in as you reach a crawl or stop. To keep the exhaust note unnoticeable, you have to be going about 1/4 throttle in any given gear. Now for the part that I don't agree 100% with. The lag you speak about. Only once did I feel massive lag in this car to the point where I thought I was going to get rear ended. I was in stopped traffic on the 10 fwy heading to santa monica and decided I had enough. I see cars heading towards the exit ramp I was just able to slide into and I decide to point the car and mash the pedal down. In these situations, immediate reaction from the car is crucial and that is not what I received. The car literally didn't move for some split seconds until it reached about 1500+ rpm. I think 1.5 seconds is a decent sized exaggeration because 1.5 seconds is a very long time in car speak. I'd say that it was more like a .7-.8 second delay before the car knew you were really wanting the damn thing to scoot fast. As soon as the rpms made their way above 1500 and the car realized it was spraying max fuel and air into the cylinders, it came to life in a scary way and the tires kept skipping and breaking all the way until almost 4500 rpms (at which point I had to shift into second anyways to adhere to break-in). Now with the sport button engaged, I have felt maybe twice, a similar lag from a standstill. The difference with sport button engaged and not engaged is almost exclusively noticed when the car is already in motion. Shift speeds are even shorter and the car seems to have more pulling power right at the immediate rpm range of the next shift up. In other words, if you shifted from 2nd to 3rd, 3rd would immediately pick up as hard as second did at the highest rpm it was at before upshift. Also, with sport on, the responsiveness of the throttle is considerably quicker when hitting the gas suddenly from a roll or even just increasing gas pedal push from a mellow cruise speed. I said in another thread, that I honestly think that the car is more predictable and evokes a smoother feeling when the sport button is on. The trickiest rpm range/gear I have consistently experienced is when getting into second at a low speed where the rpm is pretty low. When I shift into second at a low speed or try to take off hard while already being in second (at low rpm), I experience a similar weird lag as the standstill full throttle launch. However, because the pulling power that comes next immediately is following a brief lag, the car's speed seems to overcompensate and feels more dramatic than in normal situations. Perhaps this has to do with the fact that these are the only times that you will experience that full 332 ft-lbs torque from the earliest available point in the rpm range. To sum it up on my long winded side, the lag is there, but I really doubt that it is actually as as time consuming as saying "one mississippi two...mi....." Great choice on the M by the way OP!!! I found it hilarious and kind of refreshing that you didn't even seem to care at all what color the car was. For me it was sapphire black or I skateboard to work. Last edited by Edward; 06-23-2010 at 05:52 PM.. |
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