[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Honda is allegedly working on an S2000 reboot programmed to come out in 2017.
The S2000 was phased out back in 2009 and since then many rumors emerged about a potential comeback but nothing materialized. Now, British media is reporting a new generation is slated for a 2017 market launch and will sit between the S660 and NSX. At its heart will be an uprated version of the 4-cylinder, 2.0-liter turbocharged gasoline engine taken from the upcoming Civic Type R which will develop somewhere in the region of 350 bhp (261 kW).
The same source says something about a hybrid technology developed in collaboration with the McLaren Formula 1 Team and will enable the model to perform a 0-62 mph (0-100 km/h) run in approximately 5 seconds while keeping fuel economy at around 33.3 mpg US (40 mpg UK or 7 liters / 100 km).
The 2017 Honda S2000 should have a starting price of around 35,000 GBP (59,000 USD / 42,000 EUR).

http://www.worldcarfans.com/11405117...with-350-bhp--

[ShocknAwe]

Been rumbling around the rumor mill for years. I'm not going to hold my breath.

On the other hand, if they are going to make it, 59k is a LOT of money for a car like that, ESPECIALLY considering the old S2k went for a few grand under 40k (~$37k or so) back in 2009. And that was MSRP, I doubt many folks actually paid that price. ~$22,000 price increase is too much. Spending that would be good for a ticket to the local asylum. Fair number of other options in that price bracket.

Not like you'd be buying old Honda reliability either.. My old Honda was junk, and it wasn't an isolated problem, this BMW has been vastly more reliable.

[E92inNC]

If I ever pull up next to anyone that paid 60k for an S2k I'm gonna give them my best "WTF/are you high/you must be galactically stupid" look

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by sxyblue

If I ever pull up next to anyone that paid 60k for an S2k I'm gonna give them my best "WTF/are you high/you must be galactically stupid" look

Jealous he can spend that money on "just a Honda"?

[swanson]

More like, WOW! You're stupid to spend that kind of money on just a honda.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by swanson

More like, WOW! You're stupid to spend that kind of money on just a honda.

Trying to think what BMW was out in 1991 that could do 0-60 in just over 5 seconds and was a reliable daily driver as an Accord. Still waiting....

20+ years later.

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

The GT-R is 'just a Nissan' that costs $110,000.

[derryck]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Been rumbling around the rumor mill for years. I'm not going to hold my breath.

On the other hand, if they are going to make it, 59k is a LOT of money for a car like that, ESPECIALLY considering the old S2k went for a few grand under 40k (~$37k or so) back in 2009. And that was MSRP, I doubt many folks actually paid that price. ~$22,000 price increase is too much. Spending that would be good for a ticket to the local asylum. Fair number of other options in that price bracket.

Not like you'd be buying old Honda reliability either.. My old Honda was junk, and it wasn't an isolated problem, this BMW has been vastly more reliable.

I live in Florida and had to drive to North Carolina in the middle of winter to get the S2000 I wanted when they first came out...they were selling for $40-50K in most of Florida despite the $32K MSRP. The NSX was a six figure car when it ceased production and wasn't even really competitive in its market segment at that point. Honda will have no trouble selling it if they make it...

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

It has a following.

[KingOfJericho]

"But it has bulletproof reliability" stops being solid justification at a certain price point. The NSX is a perfect example. With no major power upgrades to keep up with the competition, sales slumped massively. Same thing happened with the S2000.

[IEDEI]

meh....bring it as a coupe or i don't care!

[E92inNC]

Originally Posted by Levi

Jealous he can spend that money on "just a Honda"?

Maybe a bit, but mostly because they could've bought an low mileage NSX for 20k less. Also I'm biased based on the fact that the NSX is my second fav Japanese car but I've always viewed the S2k as a girl's car without auto tranny option

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by sxyblue

Maybe a bit, but mostly because they could've bought an low mileage NSX for 20k less. Also I'm biased based on the fact that the NSX is my second fav Japanese car but I've always viewed the S2k as a girl's car without auto tranny option

Not sure how feminine that girl might be then...

[pz619]

Previous to my car I had an S2000. I could have easily just switched into newer models if they just kept it going.

Simply put, the S2000 was one of the best cars I ever owned. I wish I kept it as a weekend car.

[pz619]

Originally Posted by Levi

Not sure how feminine that girl might be then...

Exactly. Zero sound insulation, quieter with the top down than up, abusive suspension, transmission would heat up your right leg, unforgiving of mistakes, and I loved every minute of it. Although, no girl that has ever been in that car (in my experience) shared the same feelings.

[secretsquirrel]

Originally Posted by sxyblue

Maybe a bit, but mostly because they could've bought an low mileage NSX for 20k less. Also I'm biased based on the fact that the NSX is my second fav Japanese car but I've always viewed the S2k as a girl's car without auto tranny option

Looks at the fact that you have a 328 and tries not to say anything...

The S2000 had an LSD, RWD, stiff suspension, minimal creature comforts, the ability to touch every control on the car without moving your hand off the steering wheel. Not to mention that the AP1's (pre-lci's in BMW nomenclature) didn't have stability control or cup holders. Not sure how you can be much more driver focused than that.

[quiksi]

as with any Honda vaporware, I'll believe it when I see it

[swanson]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Trying to think what BMW was out in 1991 that could do 0-60 in just over 5 seconds and was a reliable daily driver as an Accord. Still waiting....

20+ years later.

Dont worry, I'm not a BMW fanboy.

[E92inNC]

Originally Posted by Levi

Not sure how feminine that girl might be then...

Originally Posted by secretsquirrel

Looks at the fact that you have a 328 and tries not to say anything...

The S2000 had an LSD, RWD, stiff suspension, minimal creature comforts, the ability to touch every control on the car without moving your hand off the steering wheel. Not to mention that the AP1's (pre-lci's in BMW nomenclature) didn't have stability control or cup holders. Not sure how you can be much more driver focused than that.

My second job was as a lube tech for Honda and having driven quite a few of them while I was there and a couple since then I absolutely still think it's a girls car and nothing special at all. I'm 5'9" 160 and always felt semi-claustophobic each time I set foot in that car so I'm amazed when I see anyone bigger getting out of one. I can see the appeal of a used one for around 15k or so but 60k for a Honda is just pure stupidity in my mind cause they're going into M3, Boxster, Vette territory and I think they're not gonna sell much. One reason I love the NSX is that it's much cheaper than other cars with similar performance-348 or 911, much more reliable and can be driven everyday, if the price is true than the S2k has lost much of this given that recently I talked to the guys at the dealership that I worked with and they were telling me of the problems Hondas are having now with the use of direct injection. Even to this day I ask people why they got an S2k over something like an Evo 9 cuz I'm always impressed every time I drive one.

[pz619]

Originally Posted by secretsquirrel

Looks at the fact that you have a 328 and tries not to say anything...

The S2000 had an LSD, RWD, stiff suspension, minimal creature comforts, the ability to touch every control on the car without moving your hand off the steering wheel. Not to mention that the AP1's (pre-lci's in BMW nomenclature) didn't have stability control or cup holders. Not sure how you can be much more driver focused than that.

Also my AP1 didn't have traction control or a glove box that can actually fit the user manual. But it did have a radio that couldn't compete with other noises the car makes, or lets in above 20 mph. The only option on that car that you could buy? Color. At the end of the day (2000-2010) it was pretty much the most driver focused car outside of a Lotus Elise that you could buy.

As for my 328i compared the s2000? I feel like a candy ass for making this move, but it's completely different cars.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by swanson

Dont worry, I'm not a BMW fanboy.

Cool w/ me.

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

"But it has bulletproof reliability" stops being solid justification at a certain price point. The NSX is a perfect example. With no major power upgrades to keep up with the competition, sales slumped massively. Same thing happened with the S2000.

Nevermind the concept that Honda still has bulletproof reliability is laughable. They HAD bulletproof reliability. They lost it by buying parts from the lowest bidder like US Domestic manufacturers did through the 90's-2010 (and many still do). Nothing better than average now.



I'd love to be proven wrong and have them release this car and have it be a fantastically engineered machine. I might even buy one, I was and still am a Honda fan. However, I agree with the other poster who said it was likely to be vaporware, unfortunate but the stats point in that direction. Anyone remember the S3000? Yeah, that was vaporware too.