Ess supercharger

JTDahl · 10-21-2014, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GreaseJunkie

By the time this thing releases....I'll be able to afford it.

Amen.

b-man · 10-21-2014, 11:18 PM

http://www.esstuning.com/news/7/N51-...ming-soon.html

Posted on 22nd Nov 2011 @ 10:41 AM......wtf?

avocet · 10-21-2014, 11:52 PM

Summertime 2014 release. So they are only a few months behind.

But I hate to say it but I blew my budget on motorcycle stuff.

Hope it's ready by next summer when the penny jar gets full.

But my spidey senses are saying ceramic coated headers in the meantime...

bernard54321 · 10-23-2014, 07:31 PM

I emailed them also but no response its been a few days since, so the release date will probably be sometime in the next 30 years

JDane07 · 10-23-2014, 08:47 PM

This has all the makings to be another MMW or AA fiasco.

For the sake of the N52/51 I will remain optimistic, but it sure is difficult.

Nordkeyz73 · 10-23-2014, 11:46 PM

I have contacted them numerous times and I keep getting the same answer. The weird thing is that Roman is active in M3post almost everyday but won't write so much as a sentence here. At the very least post something.

pfitz911 · 10-24-2014, 07:07 AM

See, this is my point gents
I find it really poor that he can be very involved in the m3 forums, or the n54 talk, but we get sweet fanny Adams.
Roman, lift your game son, cause in the words of twisted sister..."we're not gonna take it..."

Please tell me there are some fellow forum members that are old enough to remember twisted sister!!!

330xtrai · 10-24-2014, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GreaseJunkie

By the time this thing releases....I'll be able to afford it.

Hopefully it's done before 5 years so I can get it and convert my car to a track car after dental school

DUI Elite · 10-24-2014, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pfitz911

Please tell me there are some fellow forum members that are old enough to remember twisted sister!!!

This might be a crime to not know of them.

thomas88162 · 10-24-2014, 10:49 AM

It isn't happening. There, I settled it for you. Haha, I have no clue but it seems odd that they would ignore their own upcoming product.

tuphdc · 10-24-2014, 11:12 AM

So I'm not a mechanical engineer of any sort, but what makes producing/designing a supercharger so difficult for this platform?

jc5988 · 10-24-2014, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tuphdc

So I'm not a mechanical engineer of any sort, but what makes producing/designing a supercharger so difficult for this platform?

not gonna be easy job, many tuner even struggle to come up proper NA tune. i think mainly due to valvetronic.

it took AA a couple of year to finally crack the vavletronic and roll out their "2nd" stage software, 1st stage didnt really do very much.

AdrianRex · 10-24-2014, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JDane07

This has all the makings to be another MMW or AA fiasco.

For the sake of the N52/51 I will remain optimistic, but it sure is difficult.

AA wasn't shy about saying they just didn't think the automatic transmission could handle it and the economics of building and selling the thing only for the TINY fraction of M/T owners who would end up buying one didn't make sense. I respect that.
I only worry that ESS is starting to think that transmission can't take it even though earlier in this post Roman said that it will be fine.

Taran.J · 10-24-2014, 12:29 PM

By the time the SC kit is out the kit will cost more than used PRE LCI's

If it was more economical and "main stream" this may revert to a money maker

bernard54321 · 10-24-2014, 01:42 PM

I really hope this doesn't get cancelled....

TSM330i · 10-24-2014, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tuphdc

So I'm not a mechanical engineer of any sort, but what makes producing/designing a supercharger so difficult for this platform?

Tuning.

The mechanical aspect of manufacturing the brackets and piping is not a big deal at all. They most likely had that done in a week max. The tuning and getting our engines to work with FI is a MAJOR issue.

Something is going on for sure. AA is not a fly-by-night operation and they have a reputation to uphold, unlike MMW. I have a feeling they're still working out the bugs and it's going to take a little more time. Personally, I'd rather have them figure everything out and get it right the first time instead of just getting something out to "please" everyone and then have problems.
GOD forbid if there are problems. Then we'll have pitchforks and torches out because they didn't take the time to get it right.

TheSt|G · 10-24-2014, 03:48 PM

Oh noes.

Shrug.

houbmw · 10-24-2014, 08:04 PM

Roman: I hope you and the other hard working people over at ESS are just fine-tuning this bad boy and plan to release this before the end of this year! I think it would help just to let us know that the project is still moving forward. A lot of us on this forum are nervous about reoccurances similiar to AA and MMW.

Thank You,

N52 owner with 75,000 miles

JeM9 · 10-24-2014, 08:20 PM

How many gains are we looking to get out of this?

00e46sedan · 10-24-2014, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JeM9

How many gains are we looking to get out of this?

100-150 give or take.... Should be posted in this thread somewhere, but for sure you'll be over the 300 whp range

E46driver · 10-25-2014, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 00e46sedan

100-150 give or take.... Should be posted in this thread somewhere, but for sure you'll be over the 300 whp range

The their test car was a 330. It was running 10.5 psi and maing 325whp/26xwtq. The production kit is going to be running 7.5 psi so it'll probably be around the 300 give or take.

cdgatti · 10-25-2014, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pfitz911

See, this is my point gents
I find it really poor that he can be very involved in the m3 forums, or the n54 talk, but we get sweet fanny Adams.
Roman, lift your game son, cause in the words of twisted sister..."we're not gonna take it..."

Please tell me there are some fellow forum members that are old enough to remember twisted sister!!!

Saw them live in the early 80's in Poughkeepsie, NY!

10-21-2014, 11:18 PM	#838
b-man Major 604 Rep 1,090 Posts Drives: 328xi Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: maine iTrader: (2)	http://www.esstuning.com/news/7/N51-...ming-soon.html Posted on 22nd Nov 2011 @ 10:41 AM......wtf?
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avocet Major 252 Rep 1,157 Posts Drives: 2007 328i 2011 X5d Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Vancouver bc iTrader: (0)	Summertime 2014 release. So they are only a few months behind. But I hate to say it but I blew my budget on motorcycle stuff. Hope it's ready by next summer when the penny jar gets full. But my spidey senses are saying ceramic coated headers in the meantime...
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10-23-2014, 07:31 PM	#840
bernard54321 Lieutenant 55 Rep 474 Posts Drives: 2009 328I E90 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: l.a. california iTrader: (1) Garage List 2006 Bmw 330i [0.00] 2009 328I E90 [0.00]	I emailed them also but no response its been a few days since, so the release date will probably be sometime in the next 30 years
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10-23-2014, 08:47 PM	#841
JDane07 Lieutenant Colonel 143 Rep 1,720 Posts Drives: 330i (sold), MK7 GTI Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Napa, CA iTrader: (3)	This has all the makings to be another MMW or AA fiasco. For the sake of the N52/51 I will remain optimistic, but it sure is difficult. __________________ Current Ride: '16 MK7 GTI// Former Ride: '06 E90 330i// Don't mind me... just passing along// Old E90 Thread: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...first+e90+m580
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10-23-2014, 11:46 PM	#842
Nordkeyz73 Lieutenant 163 Rep 570 Posts Drives: E90 328i ZSP, Macan Turbo Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	I have contacted them numerous times and I keep getting the same answer. The weird thing is that Roman is active in M3post almost everyday but won't write so much as a sentence here. At the very least post something. __________________ BMW Performance SSK, BMW Performance Blackline Tails, BMW Performance Exhaust, BMW 3-Stage Intake Manifold, Evolve Automotive Tune, Weisslicht LED Halos, Black Kidneys, Digital Speedo
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10-24-2014, 07:07 AM	#843
pfitz911 Private First Class 22 Rep 148 Posts Drives: bmw 330i Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Adelaide Australia iTrader: (0)	See, this is my point gents I find it really poor that he can be very involved in the m3 forums, or the n54 talk, but we get sweet fanny Adams. Roman, lift your game son, cause in the words of twisted sister..."we're not gonna take it..." Please tell me there are some fellow forum members that are old enough to remember twisted sister!!!
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10-24-2014, 10:49 AM	#846
thomas88162 Lieutenant 19 Rep 595 Posts Drives: E92 328i Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Clinton, IN iTrader: (0)	It isn't happening. There, I settled it for you. Haha, I have no clue but it seems odd that they would ignore their own upcoming product.
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10-24-2014, 11:12 AM	#847
tuphdc Second Lieutenant 20 Rep 212 Posts Drives: 09 BMW 128i 6MT Sport Pkg Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: King of Prussia, PA iTrader: (0)	So I'm not a mechanical engineer of any sort, but what makes producing/designing a supercharger so difficult for this platform?
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10-24-2014, 01:42 PM	#851
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10-24-2014, 08:04 PM	#854
houbmw First Lieutenant 66 Rep 309 Posts Drives: 2007 530i Sport with SMG Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Davie, Florida iTrader: (0)	Roman: I hope you and the other hard working people over at ESS are just fine-tuning this bad boy and plan to release this before the end of this year! I think it would help just to let us know that the project is still moving forward. A lot of us on this forum are nervous about reoccurances similiar to AA and MMW. Thank You, N52 owner with 75,000 miles
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10-24-2014, 08:20 PM	#855
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