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The badge inside the instrument cluster is so cheesy, cant believe bmw does that
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06-28-2014, 11:27 AM | #116 |
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Why? It just replaced the static/imprinted ///M logo found in other ///M cars. The only digital ///M logo that remains visible while driving is the smaller one located under the tach. The larger one displays at start up (..as does the ///M splash screen on the iDrive).
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06-28-2014, 11:28 AM | #117 |
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Every m car has a cheesy M badge inside the instrument cluster. Big and chrome like this? Pretty lame
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06-28-2014, 12:31 PM | #119 |
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I'm aware of what'd be involved, but I have a feeling it won't take very long. The tuner community is very persistent.
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06-28-2014, 12:47 PM | #120 | |
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I don't believe CarTest does allow power shifting. Either way there are no options other than shift time AND engagement time. Also, I do believe that 0.3 second shifts are much more realistic for a moderately adept MT operator. So if we adjust the total of shift time + engagement time down to 0.2 seconds, and make the MT car only 55 lb lighter, along with about 1% less loss (specifically 5 hp less at redline in 3rd gear) it becomes a near total performance wash. The MT car traps a hair faster but crosses a hair later (pretty well total equity for all practical purposes). Because the sims also show equality on 0-60 but the MT about 0.2 seconds quicker to 100 mph, and because these are inconsistent with quoted BMW figures (including standing 1 km), it tells me the modeling assumptions are not correct, too much loss difference or too short of shift times or both. Well either that or simply deny that the BMW figures are real (or perhaps only real for largely unskilled drivers). Also see comments below on a wide range of measured results for the E9X M3.
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06-28-2014, 01:26 PM | #122 |
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I don't know if mineral white is worth the extra $550. I kind of like how much whiter Alpine white is.
Is it really worth it?
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Mineral White: 1.) MW makes the lines easier to see 2.) MW is much "deeper" 3.) MW is more special and looks more expensive Alpine White: 1.) AW makes the lines easier to see 2.) AW is more "pure" 3.) AW looks more sporty After going to a dealership and looking at both on an M3/4 and then comparing to MW on a 43x convertible ... I concluded that AW is more to my taste. I think if I wanted a more 'deeper' and special light color I'd go moonstone |
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06-28-2014, 02:01 PM | #124 |
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Such nice cars! I'm JEALOUS!!!!!
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06-28-2014, 02:55 PM | #125 |
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Well, EAS uses an ego-boosting dyno, as they always seem to read quite high compared to pretty much everyone else. Even with 20-30whp less, though, still very impressive.
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Try doing it again with zero shift times for DCT. It might improve the simulation results. Last edited by CanAutM3; 06-28-2014 at 04:56 PM.. |
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I still think the F8X DCT is more likely 89lb (40kg) heavier than the 6MT as is published in the official BMW press release. The DCT was 45lb heavier on the E9X, they made the 6MT 26lb lighter on the F8X and they took a beefier DCT from the F1X for the F8X (18lb). I however still wonder why it shows only a 55lb heavier curb weight on the US website.
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Great pics nonetheless. Which had me laughing out loud though, the brand name of the spacers. What's up with everyone wanting a German name? Macht Schnell may sound cool for English people, but when you know it's German for "Makes fast", it looks like a joke. |
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In regards to 6MT vs DCT, this post came from another thread reviewing a 6MT car:
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06-28-2014, 11:23 PM | #132 | |
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A DCT shift time is clearly not zero. I typically use between 30-50 ms which according to some testing I did long ago (not entirely conclusive) along with various claims from manfacturers, seems very reasonable. Just another approximation anyway since it seems from feel that shift times vary not only by Drivelogic mode but by throttle position, simiarly in one mode and at WOT the shift times even vary from gear to gear. That has to do with the rpm drop getting smaller as the gears go up.
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