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      11-25-2009, 02:52 PM   #89
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As a previous '05 STi' owner, I just cannot get into the new body. In my quest for a new car, I've driven new Evo MR's, STi's (like 4 different times) etc. and I just cannot get there at all with the hatch.

That STi pictured had a complete rework done to it to look acceptable. Probably $5-$7K minmum went into making it look likethat. JUST to look acceptable. No thanks.

That said, Subaru is releasing the STi in a new sedan body in 2011 which will hopefully look a lot better. It's going to piss off a lot of people that settled for the hatch. I just hope it's not that cool because I'm picking up my '10 135i in 4 days...

Anybody that has owned an STi here will agree there is a LOT lacking on them. The interior is pretty bad, particularly the seats. They are the widest, most unsupportive seats offered in a $30K+ "sports" car. The suspension come SO soft from the factory. The steering ratio is WAY to high for the car. The steering feedback is extremely vague.

Don't get me wrong, I loved my STi, and it was a beast with tons of mods on it (susp./engine), but until Subaru decides to make it a more serious car (like the Evo) I will be passing. The thing is dumbed down so far for both genders of all ages.

One test drive in a new 135i showed me a completely different type of car than I'm used to and I'm glad to make the change.

If taking a car to the absolute limit in the 1/4mi, track etc, is you goal, then maybe an STi would suit better than a 135i, because of all of the available mods/tuners. I just want a 12 second car that feels amazing to drive, yet is still a bit classier with a nice interior and daily driver suspension. I think a 135i with a Hotchkis front sway and a JB3 will give me that. We'll see.
I had an '05 STI also and I like the hatch better.

As for the steering ratio, it is 15:0. Isn't the bimmer 16:0?
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      11-26-2009, 09:42 AM   #90
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This is proof that with money and good taste anything can look good. JK, I think that the new STi looks good, and this looks great. Nice work. Also, good call on painting the hood and leaving the vents CF.
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      11-30-2009, 06:56 PM   #91
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nice try, but I'm still a hater.
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      11-30-2009, 07:27 PM   #92
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Looks pretty sick...though enough money will make any decent looking car look sick or be relatively fast..

I like hatches on some cars...if i needed a roomier car i'd defintely consider it.
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best lookin STi ive seen
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      12-01-2009, 01:41 AM   #94
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i cant believe anyone hating the STI...especially after driving one....awesome value for the dollar!
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      12-02-2009, 05:50 PM   #96
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i cant believe anyone hating the STI...especially after driving one....awesome value for the dollar!
Most haters haven't driven one.
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STi's are fun cars to drive, I had an 07, fabulous in snow, but one thing I didn't like was its understeering, quite annoying if you ask me.
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I'd hit it, however i still like the look of old model better.
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i bet it drives nice, but I hate the looks

but that said, I hate modern bmw's looks too
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STi's are fun cars to drive, I had an 07, fabulous in snow, but one thing I didn't like was its understeering, quite annoying if you ask me.
This was easily fixed with a whiteline 27mm front sway bar - $275.
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As a previous '05 STi' owner, I just cannot get into the new body. In my quest for a new car, I've driven new Evo MR's, STi's (like 4 different times) etc. and I just cannot get there at all with the hatch.

That STi pictured had a complete rework done to it to look acceptable. Probably $5-$7K minmum went into making it look likethat. JUST to look acceptable. No thanks.

That said, Subaru is releasing the STi in a new sedan body in 2011 which will hopefully look a lot better. It's going to piss off a lot of people that settled for the hatch. I just hope it's not that cool because I'm picking up my '10 135i in 4 days...

Anybody that has owned an STi here will agree there is a LOT lacking on them. The interior is pretty bad, particularly the seats. They are the widest, most unsupportive seats offered in a $30K+ "sports" car. The suspension come SO soft from the factory. The steering ratio is WAY to high for the car. The steering feedback is extremely vague.

Don't get me wrong, I loved my STi, and it was a beast with tons of mods on it (susp./engine), but until Subaru decides to make it a more serious car (like the Evo) I will be passing. The thing is dumbed down so far for both genders of all ages.

One test drive in a new 135i showed me a completely different type of car than I'm used to and I'm glad to make the change.

If taking a car to the absolute limit in the 1/4mi, track etc, is you goal, then maybe an STi would suit better than a 135i, because of all of the available mods/tuners. I just want a 12 second car that feels amazing to drive, yet is still a bit classier with a nice interior and daily driver suspension. I think a 135i with a Hotchkis front sway and a JB3 will give me that. We'll see.
I still have my '05 STi along with my '08 135i. The 135i is amazing in stock form. It's got plenty of torque to make it enjoyable in daily driving and a perfect balance between comfort and performance with the suspension.

But when I drive my STi, it's still a much more fun car to drive when you want to have fun. But overall the 135i kills it for daily driving...so much more comfortable and luxurious, but still very fast and sporty.
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This was easily fixed with a whiteline 27mm front sway bar - $275.
Thanks for the tip, oh well...
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I always feel that they are a modders car. I am not one to go balls to the wall modding, so I will never own one.
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I think alot of the reasons that people mod the cars (other than fun) is to fix the issues that come stock with the car. Sways and springs are really needed along with a good alignment. Also a TBE and stage 2 tune really improves the drivability and fun.

After that it's just cosmetics like tail light overlays, rims etc.
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      12-10-2009, 10:53 PM   #106
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if i wanted to look like i just came off the fast and the furious set, sure id get one

i'm sure its a good car as far as driving, track, handling, whatever

i just can't imagine being taken seriously driving a car like that
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if i wanted to look like i just came off the fast and the furious set, sure id get one

i'm sure its a good car as far as driving, track, handling, whatever

i just can't imagine being taken seriously driving a car like that
And this is why the whole world perceives BMW drivers as they do. Your car is a vehicle, you are a person. The two are not combined into a single image.
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And this is why the whole world perceives BMW drivers as they do. Your car is a vehicle, you are a person. The two are not combined into a single image.
a person might not be a single image with his/her car, but on average you can tell a lot about a person by what kinds of car they drive, just pay attention when you are driving around and most stereotypes will hold true, people do get cars that suit their personalities, life styles, bank accounts, etc

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Looks much better than stock. Nice list of mods..
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Its not that I don't like the STi, its just that I don't like hatchbacks. It looks like a big Nike to me....
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