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      08-27-2014, 04:25 PM   #23
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yeah its not a whole lot quicker than a m3 in a straightline , your gonna need turbos if you wanna make the m3 feel slow.
the panamera gts will feel pretty slow next to a rs7 just sayin.
Huh? A 991S/4S is A LOT faster than an e9x m3...112 mph trap speed vs 118/119. It is the same difference between a new m3 vs old m3 when comparing the e9x m3 to a 991S...except its doing it with a lot less hp.

991S 0-100 mph 8.4 secs, f82 m4 0-100 mph 8.6 seconds. e92 m3 0-100 mph ~10 seconds. Huge difference there.

Heres a 991S vs an e92 m3...m3 got pulled like it was standing still




Even a stock 997.2S with PDK is a lot faster than a tuned dct e9x m3.

Here's a stock 997.2S pdk vs a dct m3 with exhaust and tune...not even close.


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      08-28-2014, 10:11 AM   #24
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gts > RS7 ( even if its faster ) > cls63. I drove my friends panamera S and that thing hugs very well for a 4400 lb car. I want to get a P-gts, used one of course so that the first depreciation hit. you can get one for about 85-90k right now vs 120k
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Yeah, he's only looking at used. No need to not utilize someone else taking the initial depreciation hit on these pricy cars. The R8 V10 test drive is tonight. Let's hope he isn't entirely disappointed by the R-tronic. He wants a manual but my mom can't drive stick so that's that, lol.
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      08-28-2014, 11:53 AM   #26
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my business partner has a R8, it looks sick, but the single clutch is no bueno
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my business partner has a R8, it looks sick, but the single clutch is no bueno
Yeah, I've yet to hear any good reviews on the pre-2014 R8 automatic transmission. Hopefully it's not too bad, a little jerkiness is nothing that would keep me away.
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my business partner has a R8, it looks sick, but the single clutch is no bueno
Yeah, I've yet to hear any good reviews on the pre-2014 R8 automatic transmission. Hopefully it's not too bad, a little jerkiness is nothing that would keep me away.
Why not just get the manual? I assume the spousal unit already has her own car? Hell, teach her to drive a manual with the R8.
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When I had my F car 1999 Modena 360, I wanted a manual, but they were hard to find. I ended up getting an "auto". It was horrible in auto mode but superb in manual mode with the paddle shifters. The auto was jerky and just terrible. It made it seem like it was a manual and I didn't know how to drive it!

It was the first car I had ever driven with F1 trans...once I got the hang of it, I loved it. Would still prefer a manual, but get what you can get sometimes.
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my business partner has a R8, it looks sick, but the single clutch is no bueno
Yeah, I've yet to hear any good reviews on the pre-2014 R8 automatic transmission. Hopefully it's not too bad, a little jerkiness is nothing that would keep me away.
Why not just get the manual? I assume the spousal unit already has her own car? Hell, teach her to drive a manual with the R8.
Haha, knowing my parents really well, I can say with certainty that unless both can drive the car they're not getting if.
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But if it were my car, I wouldn't get anything besides the MT. That gated shifter is by far the best in any car I've seen.
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But if it were my car, I wouldn't get anything besides the MT. That gated shifter is by far the best in any car I've seen.
Agreed. Now that Ferrari doesn't offer their gated shifters, the R8 is about as close as you can come.
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We love our Panamera, and it's just a base model. Very sporty, drives like a much smaller car. Very luxurious inside and with the rear seats down you can haul a lot of stuff. Their CPO program is great, we got one with more warranty than a new car for 30% off the original MSRP.
Must haves are blind spot monitor, rear view camera (visibility isn't good), PASM. Ours had all that plus heated and ventilated seats and a few other goodies like a wood package.
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Lol, my dad called the Nissan dealership at 1 pm saying he was going to come around 6:30 to test drive their GTR and is very serious about purchasing it. They said ok. He arrived at 6:30 and I arrived at 7. He was still waiting for a salesman! At about 7:20 is when a salesman came and he opened up the car for us. He said that he cannot let us drive the car as the people that buy these cars just come in and buy it outright. We were like, "how are we supposed to know if we like it without a test drive? This is a $110k car." He said the people that buy these cars don't need to test drive them. So we either put down a $5k deposit, or we don't drive it.
I bought mine without ever having driven one.
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Alright. So we drove the R8 and it's amazing, but my mother hated the R-tronic. However this beauty caught my eye! Yes, they're now negotiating it. Unfortunately I'm driving back to work but I'm literally shaking in excitement. It's a freaking 991 GT3!
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This thread gets better every day. Holding out for FF delivery.
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This thread gets better every day. Holding out for FF delivery.
Haha. In before he buys another Mercedes.
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This was the R8. I drove behind it in the M3 but never drove it. It sounded pretty awesome though.
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I have a CLS63, it's meh. If the budget allowed for it I would have done the RS7. If you're into luxury and only luxury then the CLS63 is the car for you, it's not very engaging in the turns but, in a straight line it's not bad. Interior is pretty plush.

You know what, ignore everything that's written Ferrari FF or a F12. I hear the 650s is a huge improvement over the outgoing 12C.
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Well, after finding out 2014 Nissan GTRs are being had for $87-$93k thanks to a Nissan incentive of $10k, he's set on buying either a black or white 2014 black edition brand new for around $90k!
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Well, after finding out 2014 Nissan GTRs are being had for $87-$93k thanks to a Nissan incentive of $10k, he's set on buying either a black or white 2014 black edition brand new for around $90k!
Is it more if he gets to test drive it? I hope they let him test drive it or I would go to another dealer. I would never give anyone $90k without a test drive.
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No, if you're serious enough they'll let you test drive them. But we're contacting over a dozen dealers now, we've already secured one for $88k but it's black, and we could get a white one down to $89k which is what he wants the most. All are 2014 Black editions. This $10k incentive expires tomorrow.
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Signed at $90k for a 2014 BE Pearl White. $21k off msrp is a mighty deal.
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Dealer snapped this pic. Should get loaded on the transport truck Monday and should arrive in St. Louis by Thursday.
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