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Can someone explain to me how Acura is outselling Audi in America?
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03-26-2014, 05:01 AM | #46 | |
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That is exactly what I started sensing the more I read. Same stomping feet while holding breath vibe. Carry on..
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03-26-2014, 06:40 AM | #47 |
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You ignored it the first time so I'll say it again: Half of this country has no use for AWD.
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03-26-2014, 06:49 AM | #48 | |
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You were saying?
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03-26-2014, 12:39 PM | #49 |
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I'm not seeing the same levels of childish passive aggression and headstrong opinions though. Not enough emoticons either.
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03-26-2014, 01:44 PM | #50 |
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I don't know. I just picture this cat with a 4C poster on the ceiling above his bed. Who knows? Bit of a weird rant with a thread topic such as this. No emoticons could be a camo attempt...as hard as it is not to do. ----crickets----
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03-26-2014, 02:28 PM | #51 |
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03-27-2014, 12:34 PM | #52 | |
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^^^ This x100000000 Also, as a Floridian I agree with your other point about AWD. Rarely do I see AWD versions of cars down here. Outside of great AWD technology, what does Audi offer to the average American car buyer? Presitige? Status? You could easily get those from BMW and Mercedes (even more so and get a better lease rate while you're at it). Acura at least has the Honda reliabilty reputation behind it. The MDX is a great value. The MDX owner has a vehicle with some luxury, 3rd row seating, and reliabilty all starting at around 43k. Hard to beat that. |
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03-27-2014, 12:49 PM | #53 |
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03-27-2014, 01:21 PM | #54 | |
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Let's keep the discussion cool. The Acura as a brand has something that many people in US value and that is reliability and $ value. I had two Acura TL's and currently have 08 TL-S and have nothing but great memories and never had a major issue. Their warranty is fantastic, the current one has 8y b-b and it was a per-owned vehicle. It is not a luxury brand but a "near-luxury" one. It offers more than most people need. For many people Audi falls in the same near-luxury segment although they clearly have luxury and performance vehicles like A7, A8 etc. However, many of their bread and butter models share parts with VW brand yet they cost much more. Therefore the value is not there. As an example, my neighbor replaced their Prius and Rav 4 with 2011 135i vert and F30 328 xi. I helped a bit and they did consider other brands and quickly noted that Audi is an expensive VW. Note "EXPENSIVE"! They wanted a premium luxury brand and cross-shopped MB and BMW but MB was too soft, boring (their words) and many old people drive them kinda like Lexus. |
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03-27-2014, 05:30 PM | #55 | |
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Acura is an upscale brand. We all know this. The 2% of car shoppers that actually post on forums can say this or that about Acura.. but it doesn't change the fact that the AUTO INDUSTRY and stats sheet list Acura alongside Audi/Lexus/BMW/Mercedes when they show the 'luxury sales' stats and numbers. Acura is often compared in the auto industry to other Luxury cars. It is just amusing to me how the Audi A4 can't even outsell the Lexus IS(Lexus's third seller)........... The Audi A4 is honestly the WORST car in that price segment. Even the Volvo S60 is a better buy. Yet Audi A4 is their premier model(for sales). Audi in the USA Auto Market is over hyped and sales numbers in the USA proves it. |
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03-27-2014, 10:16 PM | #56 |
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I've owned 2 Acuras in the past and have had ZERO problems with either cars. And I mean ZERO. No reliability issues whatsoever. Can the same be said for Audi? Reliability/Dependability goes a LONG way here in the US.
But Acura's been in a major slump these past years. However, the new upcoming TLX looks pretty solid and the Acura NSX flagship should help with the brand in the future. http://www.acura.com/future/TLX#1 Last edited by MicrophoneMic; 03-27-2014 at 11:18 PM.. |
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most of the answers I'm reading are wrong.
Audi only bring a certain number of cars to the US to sell; so in other words they have been restricting their supply purposely in order to have limited supply to ensure sustained and predictable growth.....and this odd plan has been working for the past 10 years. You will rarely find Audi 'experimenting' like BMW does by selling multiple bloated variants of the same car (refer to BMW going GT and Gran Coupe and now 'Active Tourer'). You will also rarely find 'unsold' cars sitting too long at Audi dealers like you will find at Acura or BMW dealers. the reality is that Audi is still a red hot marque globally and is on the heels of BMW in global sales numbers. The US market suffered all those years ago with that whole 60 minutes debacle and it's taken them a long time to recover but they have. Most Audi shoppers do not cross shop against Acura but against BMW and Mercedes. Most Acura customers are cross shopping against Lexus and Infiniti. |
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03-28-2014, 05:54 AM | #58 | |
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03-28-2014, 06:04 AM | #59 | |
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Acura on the other hand was a Honda and came with all the reputation for reliability that Honda's rightly earned from the late '70s and '80s. Now as that age group (my age group) is becoming "old people" we old folk still remember how reliable Hondas (Acuras) are and how bad Audis were. |
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03-28-2014, 09:56 AM | #61 |
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hahaha well indirectly yes, I think. What happened was he asked a few questions since he likes my car and then we went for a ride. After 15-20 mins we arrived in an area with some nice curvy roads and I let him drive it. I gave him a 30 sec crash course of what not to do. The funniest thing was he would stop 30+ feet ahead of traffic lights and the he looked at me and said what is wrong with this car - it stops instantly!? hahaha It took him 10+ tries to get used to it, I laughed my butt off every time. As he was driving I told him don't brake before the curve just ease of the throttle and turn in slowly - smooth inputs. He just kept repeating "I can't do any of this in my car". After two weeks he had 135i and his wife thinks it's a raw sports car compared to her F30 and she does not like it.
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Good point. I've had a couple of "non car" people ask my how I like my BMW. I always tell them that I love it, but I'm handy with a wrench (which save me a lot of money). I don't want to be responsible for anyone with a Japanese car coming over to Euro cars thinking they'll get the same level of ease of use.
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