The Secret of the Oranges

shimshimhada · 03-10-2006, 10:21 PM

Film scholars and fans of the Godfather movies note what they believe is the significance of oranges in the films. The fruit plays a symbolic role, fans suggest, as the appearance of an orange in the film indicates an important "death scene" will take place.

In the first film, Tom Hagen and Woltz negotiate Johnny's movie status at a dinner table with a plate of oranges on it, and Woltz soon discovers his dead champion horse's head; Don Vito Corleone is buying oranges from a fruit seller when he is attacked; oranges are placed on the table at the meeting of the Mafia bosses (and specifically in front of the ones who will be assassinated at the film's climax); and Don Corleone dies while eating an orange, as he plays with his young grandson.

Tessio is also seen peeling an orange at Connie's wedding. In The Godfather Part II, Michael Corleone receives an orange from an associate of a group behind an attempt on his life, and later in the movie, is seen eating an orange as he orders the "hit" against his enemies, in preparation for the climax of the film. Additionally, in a scene from the early 1900s storyline, Don Fanucci takes an orange from a street vendor's cart and tosses it about just before his death at the hands of a young Vito.

Michael also dies while eating an orange in Sicily at the end of the third film. Also, in The Godfather Part 3, a bowl of oranges is knocked over as the helicopter assault begins. "The Sopranos" copy this when Uncle Junior tries to have Tony killed, just before which Tony buys a bottle of orange juice.

During the confession scene in The Godfather Part 3, when about to speak to Cardinal Lamberto about the murder of his brother Fredo, Michael suffers a diabetic attack and is given a glass of orange juice.

-Wikipedia

Oz · 03-10-2006, 10:45 PM

Interesting..I have watched the Godfather series many times and haven't noticed that before

You must be really into oranges since it's in your signature and all..Enjoy

deutschmann59 · 03-10-2006, 10:46 PM

Holy Crap, Shim!!!

I am a huge Godfather fan. I've got the new DVD set, but also I have the old VHS for the Godfather Complete Epic 1901-1979 with all the deleted scenes (like when the undertaker tells his wife that he should have never gotten involved with Don Corleone, when Fabrizo is killed by a car bomb many years later, etc, etc, etc.)

And I have never noticed how many times oranges are used in that movie, and yet I remember every single example you mention...Vito dies while eating an orange, the diabetic shock in Part III, etc.

Awesome little post, here!

shimshimhada · 03-10-2006, 10:47 PM

Wikipedia is the Holy Grail of useless facts.

lux.sh · 03-10-2006, 11:43 PM

orange sarang. how cute shimshimhada.

NaTuReB0Y · 03-10-2006, 11:45 PM

i occassionally drink orange juice........

docbolo · 03-10-2006, 11:51 PM

awesome post!! Seen the movies, worship them in fact. Read the book. Seen all sopranos. If it involves mafia I probably saw it or read it. NEVER noticed the orange connection!

Its funny cause last time I was in Sicily I had a lot of orange gelato. Luckily I wasn't killed or ambushed

Can't wait till this Sunday, NEW Sopranos season finally!!

makr · 03-11-2006, 04:17 PM

Dont dead me Shim.

e90rocks · 03-13-2006, 11:04 PM

Yes, of course. Orange = violence & death

and don't foget...

Peau d'Orange - orange peel appearance of skin in advanced breast cancer
A Clockwork Orange - Lots of violence here, but better to have free will
Agent Orange - death to Southeast Asian foliage and possibly GI's later in life.

not to mention...
O.J. SimpsonDouble murder ("alleged")

NaTuReB0Y · 03-13-2006, 11:05 PM

and ugly orange amber corners..........

03-10-2006, 10:21 PM	#1
shimshimhada Brigadier General 442 Rep 4,838 Posts Drives: Portal Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portal iTrader: (2)	The Secret of the Oranges Film scholars and fans of the Godfather movies note what they believe is the significance of oranges in the films. The fruit plays a symbolic role, fans suggest, as the appearance of an orange in the film indicates an important "death scene" will take place. In the first film, Tom Hagen and Woltz negotiate Johnny's movie status at a dinner table with a plate of oranges on it, and Woltz soon discovers his dead champion horse's head; Don Vito Corleone is buying oranges from a fruit seller when he is attacked; oranges are placed on the table at the meeting of the Mafia bosses (and specifically in front of the ones who will be assassinated at the film's climax); and Don Corleone dies while eating an orange, as he plays with his young grandson. Tessio is also seen peeling an orange at Connie's wedding. In The Godfather Part II, Michael Corleone receives an orange from an associate of a group behind an attempt on his life, and later in the movie, is seen eating an orange as he orders the "hit" against his enemies, in preparation for the climax of the film. Additionally, in a scene from the early 1900s storyline, Don Fanucci takes an orange from a street vendor's cart and tosses it about just before his death at the hands of a young Vito. Michael also dies while eating an orange in Sicily at the end of the third film. Also, in The Godfather Part 3, a bowl of oranges is knocked over as the helicopter assault begins. "The Sopranos" copy this when Uncle Junior tries to have Tony killed, just before which Tony buys a bottle of orange juice. During the confession scene in The Godfather Part 3, when about to speak to Cardinal Lamberto about the murder of his brother Fredo, Michael suffers a diabetic attack and is given a glass of orange juice. -Wikipedia Last edited by shimshimhada; 03-10-2006 at 10:46 PM..
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Oz Lieutenant Colonel 33 Rep 1,770 Posts Drives: 2006 330i, 2004 X5 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wayne, NJ iTrader: (1) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Interesting..I have watched the Godfather series many times and haven't noticed that before You must be really into oranges since it's in your signature and all..Enjoy __________________ 2006 330i Steptronic/Alpine White/Black Leather/Burl Walnut Trim/Premium Package/iDrive/Heated Seats/Winter: STYLE 159 Blizzak LM-22 RFT/Summer: TBD 2004 X5 Steptronic/Alpine White/Grey Leather/Poplar Trim/Premium Package/Heated Seats/iPod Adapter
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deutschmann59 Captain 176 Rep 737 Posts Drives: 2006 325i Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: e90post.com iTrader: (0)	Holy Crap, Shim!!! I am a huge Godfather fan. I've got the new DVD set, but also I have the old VHS for the Godfather Complete Epic 1901-1979 with all the deleted scenes (like when the undertaker tells his wife that he should have never gotten involved with Don Corleone, when Fabrizo is killed by a car bomb many years later, etc, etc, etc.) And I have never noticed how many times oranges are used in that movie, and yet I remember every single example you mention...Vito dies while eating an orange, the diabetic shock in Part III, etc. Awesome little post, here!
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shimshimhada Brigadier General 442 Rep 4,838 Posts Drives: Portal Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portal iTrader: (2)	Wikipedia is the Holy Grail of useless facts.
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NaTuReB0Y Powered By 36DD 337 Rep 7,369 Posts Drives: 2006 E90 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Inland Empire iTrader: (12)	i occassionally drink orange juice........ __________________ 2006 E90 330i Jet Black \| 20" WORK VS-XX \| FK452 \| H&R Sport on Koni Yellow \| REMUS QUAD
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docbolo BMW worshiper 23 Rep 258 Posts Drives: M3/alpine/manual/prem/19" Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Diego, CA, USA iTrader: (1)	awesome post!! Seen the movies, worship them in fact. Read the book. Seen all sopranos. If it involves mafia I probably saw it or read it. NEVER noticed the orange connection! Its funny cause last time I was in Sicily I had a lot of orange gelato. Luckily I wasn't killed or ambushed Can't wait till this Sunday, NEW Sopranos season finally!!
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e90rocks Myrmidon 17 Rep 236 Posts Drives: Entwicklung 90 - 325 Xi Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 325 xi [0.00]	Yes, of course. Orange = violence & death and don't foget... Peau d'Orange - orange peel appearance of skin in advanced breast cancer A Clockwork Orange - Lots of violence here, but better to have free will Agent Orange - death to Southeast Asian foliage and possibly GI's later in life. not to mention... O.J. SimpsonDouble murder ("alleged")
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NaTuReB0Y Powered By 36DD 337 Rep 7,369 Posts Drives: 2006 E90 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Inland Empire iTrader: (12)	and ugly orange amber corners.......... __________________ 2006 E90 330i Jet Black \| 20" WORK VS-XX \| FK452 \| H&R Sport on Koni Yellow \| REMUS QUAD
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