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View Poll Results: What will happen when the Large Hadron Collider is fired up?
solve some of the universe's most vexing problems 12 19.05%
it will create a black hole that will destroy the planet 19 30.16%
nothing. It will be a dud. 32 50.79%
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      09-08-2008, 09:55 AM   #45
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Large Hadron Collider to Go Online This Week Despite Death Threats
Jason Mick (Blog) - September 8, 2008 9:45 AM

...despite its great promise, many people worldwide have protested the construction of the particle accelerator, believing it could end the world. Many are fearful that the collider could spawn black holes, which they worry could devour the Earth.

According to Professor Brian Cox of Manchester University, the public animosity is so severe that American Nobel prize winning physicist Frank Wilczek of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology has received death threats. Professor Cox, typically sedate, adds irritatingly, "Anyone who thinks the LHC will destroy the world is a t---. "

James Gillies, the LHC head of public relations says he's gotten calls from people literally sobbing and asking him to halt the project. He states, "They phone me and say: ‘I am seriously worried. Please tell me that my children are safe.’"

While some merely beg Mr. Gillies to convince them that the world is not going to end when the LHC is turned on, he says other take a angrier stance. He states, "There are a number who say: 'You are evil and dangerous and you are going to destroy the world.' I find myself getting slightly angry, not because people are getting in touch but the fact they have been driven to do that by what is nonsense. What we are doing is enriching humanity, not putting it at risk."

There have also been numerous legal attempts to thwart construction, none of which have succeeded. Doomsday predictors argue that there is a small but serious chance the LHC will breed a cataclysm that could kill the world. Since 1994, when the project was first envisioned, they have fought it. They frequently quote Our Final Century?: Will the Human Race Survive the Twenty-first Century? - written by Lord Rees, astronomer royal and president of the Royal Society.

While the reactor could produce black holes, according to physicists, they would be tiny and would not be capable of growing. The study states, "Each collision of a pair of protons in the LHC will release an amount of energy comparable to that of two colliding mosquitoes, so any black hole produced would be much smaller than those known to astrophysicists."

Further, the LHC will be incapable of producing possibly dangerous strangelets, based on experimental information gathered at the Brookhaven National Laboratory's Relativistic Heavy-Ion Collider, New York.
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I know one thing that these smarty pants particle physicists don't know. The perceivable universe is as infinitly small as it is large. They're going to keep wasting their time and money discovering quarks,neutrinos,muons and other exotic very small particles. They are never going to get it - they'll never find the answers they're looking for. They aren't meant to. We are all just meat popsicles after all.

Save the billions of dollars for something you we can wrap our puny human minds around like feeding the starving people of this world.


Those are my final words for this planet in the coming end of days.


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It's going to be a dud...

If something does happen though, BMW owners UNITE!(yes im lame)
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Definitely in my top 10 ways I'd want to die when the day comes, but like I said, making a Black Hole takes more energy than humans can even fathom.
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Those vids were awesome, I can't believe I missed them the first time around. Did anybody else notice the Euro plates on that Rover in "Yellowstone" park ? Lol oops...
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There is still more time to live! Make the best of it.

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Mysteries of universe at focus of giant project
Tue Sep 9, 2008 9:29am EDT

"The LHC was conceived to radically change our vision of the universe," said CERN's French Director-General Robert Aymar. "Whatever discoveries it brings, mankind's understanding of our world's origins will be greatly enriched."

CERN scientists have been at pains to deny suggestions by some critics that the experiment could create tiny black holes of intense gravity that could suck in the whole planet.

The experiment is projected to restage trillions of times the moment some 15 billion years ago when, as cosmologists believe, an unimaginably dense and hot object the size of a small coin exploded, expanding rapidly to create stars, planets and eventually life on Earth.

The 10 billion Swiss franc ($9 billion) effort at CERN, the 20-nation European Organization for Nuclear Research on the edge of Geneva, begins with a relatively simple procedure: pumping a particle beam around the underground tunnel.

Technicians will first attempt to push the beam in one direction round the tightly-sealed collider, some 100 meters (yards) underground.

NO GUARANTEE

Once they have done that -- and CERN officials say there is no guarantee that success will come immediately or even in the first days -- they will project a beam, also at just under the speed of light, in the other direction.

And then, perhaps in the coming weeks, they will pump beams in both directions and smash the particles together -- but initially at low intensity.

Later, probably near the end of the year, they will move on to produce tiny collisions that will recreate the heat and energy of the Big Bang, a concept of the origin of the universe accepted by scientists.

What happens after these events -- which at their height could occur 600 million times a second -- will be tracked by ultra-sophisticated detectors wrapped around the LHC at the four collision points.

The detectors will monitor the billions of particles that will emerge from the fireballs, capturing on computer the way they come together, fly apart or just simply dissolve -- and passing the information on for detailed analysis.
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Even Hawking thinks these people are smokin crack...


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4715761.ece
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There is still more time to live! Make the best of it.

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I didn't realize it would happen 600 millions times per second

I guess that really ups the odds for iminent destruction doesn't it.
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Even Hawking thinks these people are smokin crack...


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4715761.ece
Here is a quote from the article:

"I think the probability that the LHC has enough energy to create black holes is less than one per cent, so I’m not holding my breath.” -Stephen Hawking

It's just a one percent chance. No worries.
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In case ya'll are wondering why we haven't been sucked into a black hole or yet look here:


http://www.denverpost.com/rawnews/ci_10517118


Give you confidence in their abilities to mess with the world/universe doesn't it.
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In case ya'll are wondering why we haven't been sucked into a black hole or yet look here:


http://www.denverpost.com/rawnews/ci_10517118


Give you confidence in their abilities to mess with the world/universe doesn't it.
Woo hoo! More than two months more to live!
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In other news...

Hackers attack Large Hadron Collider -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...scicern212.xml
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I have some good news.

Besides saving a ton of money on my car insurance by switching to Geico, the LHC won't be starting again until at least spring '09. Now I can truely realize the savings that Geico is giving me.


http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science....ap/index.html

BTW anybody want to predict that it won't be fully operational until Dec 21 2012?

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I have some good news.

Besides saving a ton of money on my car insurance by switching to Geico, the LHC won't be starting again until at least spring '09. Now I can truely realize the savings that Geico is giving me.


http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science....ap/index.html

BTW anybody want to predict that it won't be fully operational until Dec 21 2012?


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Negative temperature, infinitely hot

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A black hole of negative temperature would be interesting. It would emit Hawking radiation of negative energy which would have a caustic effect on anything it contacted. It would allow the black hole to eat up objects at arbitrary distance from it like a monster whose mass increased as it fed on the masses of surrounding objects. There would be no stopping it. If it entered the solar system and assumed an orbit around the sun, it would grow at the expense of the planets and the sun, until they all disappeared and only a greatly enlarged hole was left to keep feeding like a cosmic octopus with infinitely long tentacles that absorbed anything at any distance from it. Its growth would be extremely slow, but unstoppable. The only thing that might stop it would be if it is science fiction rather than science, since no one yet knows how to derive a solution of Einstein’s equation that describes such a monstrosity. If a mini-hole of negative temperature is ever created in the laboratory, it could cause the earth to implode into it and be the beginning of a cosmic horror story without end. Like Schrödinger’s cat, however, this is hypothetical physics rather than theoretical physics, so no one should worry about it.
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For me, this reply was more interesting than the article and reminded me of this old thread.
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guys my computer must be broke, it says 2008
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For me, this reply was more interesting than the article and reminded me of this old thread.
too many of your posts are nothing more than annoying.
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