Lawyers...question for you.

SteveMD · 08-06-2010, 09:58 AM

Someone I know just got indicted by a grand jury for 4 counts of mail fraud and one count of conspiracy to commit mail fraud.

I will be vague because I don't want this showing up in a google search but basically, he and an accomplice stole half a million dollars from their employee by cooking the books.

Will he do time? Looks like the company wants the dough back naturally and the max penalty is 20 years on each count. I'm sure he will lose his house as he probably spent it

What say you legal eagles?

SantaPimp27 · 08-06-2010, 10:11 AM

I know someone who stole $20 million years ago in real estate fraud and still hasnt gone to jail. Legal process takes forever

E92-Lighting · 08-06-2010, 10:16 AM

white collar crime and blue collar crime are completely different cases

08rookie · 08-06-2010, 10:24 AM

what makes you think he wont do time?

esqu1re · 08-06-2010, 10:26 AM

I don't know if they'll do time, but it would depend on a LOT of factors, including whether this is their first offense, whether they plead, and how many counts of which he /she is found guilty. Those are federal crimes (federal prison). Not candy coating it, but US attorneys don't mess around after they indict you. Also, assuming your buddy is also from MD, that would land him in the 4th circuit, which is not known for being very liberal on crime. If found guilty, I would expect there to be some prison time involved.

Stealing from employees is usually frowned upon by society...LOL.

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esqu1re Lieutenant Colonel 44 Rep 1,855 Posts Drives: M Coupe Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: East Coast iTrader: (0)	I don't know if they'll do time, but it would depend on a LOT of factors, including whether this is their first offense, whether they plead, and how many counts of which he /she is found guilty. Those are federal crimes (federal prison). Not candy coating it, but US attorneys don't mess around after they indict you. Also, assuming your buddy is also from MD, that would land him in the 4th circuit, which is not known for being very liberal on crime. If found guilty, I would expect there to be some prison time involved. Stealing from employees is usually frowned upon by society...LOL. __________________ ///M Coupe: RPI Scoop, OE Strut, CDV, Volk RE30, SS Brake Lines, Stromung Exhaust Last edited by esqu1re; 08-06-2010 at 10:37 AM..
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