[TheRox]

I disagree. I think your 1 series looks a step down from the 458 as expected, but not completely out of class.

It looks allright, well done! The 458 Just has those italian curves that german cars including Porsche cannot seem to add to their repertoire. I'm also guessing those curves cost more money to turn into sheet metal.

still wonder why Porsche can't make a nice looking 911.

[NewYearsBoy]

Originally Posted by TheRox

I disagree. I think your 1 series looks a step down from the 458 as expected, but not completely out of class.

It looks allright, well done! The 458 Just has those italian curves that german cars including Porsche cannot seem to add to their repertoire. I'm also guessing those curves cost more money to turn into sheet metal.

still wonder why Porsche can't make a nice looking 911.

HAHa^^ I agree man thanks...

[E90SLAM]

OP...keep looking right...that'll make you feel better...

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by TheRox

The 458 Just has those italian curves that german cars including Porsche cannot seem to add to their repertoire. I'm also guessing those curves cost more money to turn into sheet metal.

still wonder why Porsche can't make a nice looking 911.

There are a few reasons that actually have legitimate explanations behind why German design differs from the stuff coming out of Maranello.

First off, you have the basic overall design languages representing their countries; Germany has always been about precision and austerity, and German auto design has always faithfully represented this. The lines behind Mercedes, BMW, and especially Audi (including VW), have always been as proportionally balanced as possible for their given eras. You won't find any flamboyant proportions or lines because that isn't relative to German tradition. Italy has been and will probably remain a country of flamboyant elegance.

There's also the issue of practicality and mass production. Comparing exotic designs to mass-produced ones is futile simply because car makers have to make packaging efficiency and safety one of the most important factors. Safety standards = blunt, softened body work, and packaging efficiency means boring, efficient shapes devoid of unecessary extreme proportions like massively flared arches and unnecessarily long hoods or flat rooflines.

Another factor that leads to a more conservative, diluted design for mass-produced cars is the fact that they're going to be everywhere. The more common a car is likelygoing to be, the higher the chance that it'll be a more reserved design. People would tire and even grow wearisome of unusual design if they saw one at every other stoplight.

In regards to surface complexity, it's typically things like those inlets on the hood and front fenders that are expensive to produce/stamp. Materials also have a huge factor in manufacturing costs as well.

I also disagree about the 911. I think it's just about epitomizes what a German sports car should be: a perfect balance of engineering efficiency mixed with carefully calculated lines and proportions. No single model has better recognition. It's literally the most typical looking sports car when you break it down. Think about it. The 997 is one of the few modern cars that's guaranteed to remain timeless. Not one single line goes out of its way to impress you, yet there's nothing to fault. Perfectly shaped round headlamps up front, fat rear hips with conservative yet slender taillamp design, a sloping fastback roofline, and a predictable yet aggressive front fascia for each model, all in an extremely efficient, small package. I used to hate 911s because I just dismissed them as boring rehashes. After being so obsessed with car design for the past 4 years, I have nothing but the highest respect for that model.

I just typed all this shit out on my blackberry at work. Killed a good half hour lol.

[gun6slinger9]

That guy used to be a huge hater on Ferrari... Owned a Gallardo but the 458 turned him.

[BillLee]

am i the only one that doesn't like the looks of the 458?

[Elie335]

Originally Posted by 335iMIAMI

+100 GTFO Elie355

lol... okay i will

Originally Posted by gonzo

Sort of like you listing all your little mods to your BMW in blue?

(Including M3 calipers)?

Amazing! Outstanding! Never before seen on planet Earth!

Dip.

Seriously? My car cost here $130 000 with options I added and stuff it get near by $150 000, its not a dime a dozen like in the US. the euro spec 335 have tons of different options then the 335i with us specs + it does have the DCT gearbox and lots more feature. You can't talk BS about my " blue BMW " if you guys got the shitty quality of 335i in the US as your goverment laws does not allow euro specs cars to be imported to the us, DO NOT JUDGE THE CAR + that ferrari looks shit and fugly.

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by Elie335

lol, stfu you piece of shit with eyes.



Seriously? My car cost here $130 000 with options I added and stuff it get near by $150 000, its not a dime a dozen like in the US. the euro spec 335 have tons of different options then the 335i with us specs + it does have the DCT gearbox and lots more feature. You can't talk BS about my " blue BMW " if you guys got the shitty quality of 335i in the US as your goverment laws does not allow euro specs cars to be imported to the us, DO NOT JUDGE THE CAR + that ferrari looks shit and fugly.

Why you so mad tho?

You're still dissing a ferrari when you're driving a modded 3 series.

[Elie335]

Originally Posted by Nikkahtropolis

Why you so mad tho?

You're still dissing a ferrari when you're driving a modded 3 series.

I'm not mad, I'm trying to make stuff clear, who cares for the name man c'mon, I'd drive a GTR over that ... AND ITS A NISSAN.

[gun6slinger9]

Originally Posted by Elie335

I'm not mad, I'm trying to make stuff clear, who cares for the name man c'mon, I'd drive a GTR over that ... AND ITS A NISSAN.

Kinda silly to dis a car worth 3 of yours though

[Elie335]

And;

why DOES BMW HAVE 4,493,464 fans on facebook?
FERRARI have 3,512,587 fans????

meanwhile everyone can join, not necessary to own a Ferrari or a BMW car, just people's taste and choice...

[TK-421]

Elie355 has no friends

[gun6slinger9]

Originally Posted by Elie335

And;

why DOES BMW HAVE 4,493,464 fans on facebook?
FERRARI have 3,512,587 fans????

meanwhile everyone can join, not necessary to own a Ferrari or a BMW car, just people's taste and choice...

How many of those BMW fans on facebook drive BMW's compared to those who actually drive Ferraris?

[Elie335]

Originally Posted by gun6slinger9

Kinda silly to dis a car worth 3 of yours though

I'm not disliking man, its a nice car and everything, just it doesn't need that much attention and the thread name says "my car looks sh!t next to it" that's annoying, and No it doesn't look " shit " next to it, its just a different class.

[Elie335]

Originally Posted by gun6slinger9

How many of those BMW fans on facebook drive BMW's compared to those who actually drive Ferraris?

again, you can join the page its not necessary to drive a Ferrari or a BMW, its just about taste and opinion.

[Elie335]

Originally Posted by TK-421

Elie355 has no friends

lol ok

[Top_Gear_Fan]

Originally Posted by Elie335

And;

why DOES BMW HAVE 4,493,464 fans on facebook?
FERRARI have 3,512,587 fans????

meanwhile everyone can join, not necessary to own a Ferrari or a BMW car, just people's taste and choice...

Right, because facebook fan statistics mean everything...
Well, you've got me convinced OP! I'm gonna tell my friends with Ferraris that they should totally sell their exotics for some Euro spec BMW 3 series.

[Elie335]

lol I'm out of this thread, I live in the other side of the world, its not worth a conversation.
-ciao

[TK-421]

Originally Posted by Elie335

lol I'm out of this forum, I live in the other side of the world, i'm not worth a conversation.
-ciao

*fixed

[gun6slinger9]

Originally Posted by Elie335

again, you can join the page its not necessary to drive a Ferrari or a BMW, its just about taste and opinion.

Agreed but when you own a BMW typically you will be a fan. Of those millions of people that are fans of BMW 40% probably have owned or own a BMW. Of the millions that are fans of Ferrari maybe <1% own or have owned one. Therefore statistically Ferrari is more desireable for those who do not own one.

[Marcumac]

Originally Posted by Top_Gear_Fan

I felt worse cuz I twice on Rodeo Dr. I had to drive past this last year...


and this today...

I dunno man...looks shopped.

just kidding, nice finds. My cousin sent me a picture of a Veyron when he was in Chicago and was like "what kind of car is this?"

[NewYearsBoy]

Originally Posted by Elie335

lol I'm out of this thread, I live in the other side of the world, its not worth a conversation.
-ciao

I have really noticed that Europeans have such bad attitudes of these forums... All I wanted to do was post a pic of a nice car.... What is wrong with you...???

Ps- there are things that I would say but I don't want to be banned from this part of the forum....