[MiddleAgedAl]

http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/03/news...html?hpt=hp_t2

Man, this kind of thing makes my blood boil. Someone needs to lock this guy in an elevator car with the full grown parents of that puppy, wearing nothing but a raw steak tied to his junk.

[M3LISSA]

I agree he's a fucking loser... Anyone that does that to an animal is sick and demented... I hope someone beats his pussy ass

[954Stealth]

what a loser. He deserves whatever the law throws at him.

[gtron]

what a piece of garbage.

[P1]

Heard about the story, but did not know he was forced to resign. NICE! What a piece of shit. People like that have a very dark, dangerous side.

[squishy]

What a son of a bitch...

[KingOfJericho]

What a scumbag!

[hongsc]

It's not even his dog. It's his friend's dog. Sad. And I doubt he would have done that if the dog was full grown.

[2011CrazE89]

I watched 3 seconds of the video and had to turn it off. Give me 2 minutes with that POS.

[MiddleAgedAl]

Originally Posted by hongsc

It's not even his dog. It's his friend's dog. Sad. And I doubt he would have done that if the dog was full grown.

Exactly. If the dog was bigger and he didnt clearly have the upper hand, he probably wouldnt have done that.

If he treats his friends dog that way just because he got "frustrated" about something, I wonder how he treated his employees whenever he got frustrated about something. Something tells me a lot of staff are probably cheering his departure, for reasons that have nothing to do with the dog.

If there is such a thing as karma, it wont end with him losing his job.

[Mr Tonka]

Glad no videos exist of me playing with my dog. We play/wrestle pretty rough. He's 100 pound bulldog and while he's never exited play time bleeding... i have.

If they did video us playing, i'm sure people would think that my dog was getting ready to tear me up. He's voistrous and sounds super mean. But i can just walk away, sit on the couch and he'll come over and sit next to me and rest his head on my feet.

Of course you'd have to post a video of me sleeping on the floor with him after surgery too. Just to make sure there were no misconceptions.

This guy dog sitting is a total jagoff. I actually installed dogie cams for when we have people dog sitting for us so i can keep an eye on him. If nothing else i can see that they are feeding him, taking him out, etc...

I don't know what it is about these furry little bottomless pits that endears them to most of us so deeply. But it's difficult to believe that there are people that find dogs, pets, etc.. to be disgusting and revolting to the point they would abuse them. I just can't understand that.

[Devant]

I am definitely not condoning pet abuse or anything, but does anyone else find it bizarre that in the US more importance is placed on pets than people?

There are more rescue programs, advertisements and donations for pets than there are for people. I find something fundamentally wrong with that.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by Devant

I am definitely not condoning pet abuse or anything, but does anyone else find it bizarre that in the US more importance is placed on pets than people?

There are more rescue programs, advertisements and donations for pets than there are for people. I find something fundamentally wrong with that.

Thank you, this is a point always forgotten. People live in the streets, and animal shelters are everywhere. This is just fucked up.

Now, before you stone me to death, I've worked with training problem dogs all my life, I was taught how to walk by a dog, and when I moved out of my parents house, I didn't have plates or forks and knifes, I had a puppy whom I was forced to put down last week. I in no way want to say mistreating animals should go unpunished, but for fuck sake this country especially is full of people having much harder time than the worst threated pets. And the pets are more likely to get help than the people are.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by Devant

I am definitely not condoning pet abuse or anything, but does anyone else find it bizarre that in the US more importance is placed on pets than people?

There are more rescue programs, advertisements and donations for pets than there are for people. I find something fundamentally wrong with that.

Totally.

My dog is only 2 and is about 90% blind due to cataracts and getting worse. Vet says he can do surgery with better than a 95% success rate. $4500 is the cost. Wife and i can afford that, but just no way we're going to use those resources on our dog's sight before helping needy humans.

[Jaypod]

What a coward and a complete P.O.S.

Would like to see him kick me.....and I promise I won't bite

[954Stealth]

The fact that we can not comprehend what goes through these peoples' minds is a good thing. It means that whatever their mental deficiency is is not present in us. I struggle to understand why this happens but I take comfort in the fact that I don't.
Does that make sense?

I have 3 little dogs and they are the world to me. The seem so innocent and their love is unconditional and their dependence obvious. They are truly man's best friend.

This man's actions are disgusting but I believe their is a mental disorder or some other psychological imbalance happening for this to occur. I pity people like this and I wish their were more resources for people to seek treatment.

[stimpy]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

Totally.

My dog is only 2 and is about 90% blind due to cataracts and getting worse. Vet says he can do surgery with better than a 95% success rate. $4500 is the cost. Wife and i can afford that, but just no way we're going to use those resources on our dog's sight before helping needy humans.

So do I get to pick the charity you're going to donate that 4500 bucks to? Let's do it right now

[MiddleAgedAl]

Not sure there are MORE programs for pets than people. There are a lot of programs to help animals, but there are for people as well. I'd bet the cumulative dollars brought in for human charities vastly exceeds that for animals, especially including corporate donations.

Regardless, I'm not sure it makes any sense to compare the two like that, considering the HUGE difference between the 2 groups, and their comparative abilities to help themselves. People can choose to contribute to whatever charities they want, but animals cannot form charities to protect their own, they are totally dependent on people.

Humans are the top of the food chain on this planet, apex predators, or whatever you want to call us. In that sense, I'd say you could argue that presents a moral obligation for us to offer more help to those who simply cannot help themselves. Dont forget, people have an option that animals dont: getting help from other members of their own kind.

Any able-bodied adult with the most basic cognitive abilities has far more options than any domesticated animal locked in a house, to pull himself (or his friend or family member) out of any hole. If the person gets sick and can no longer work, their family & friends can still help. If a pet dog or cat gets sick, his biological family members cannot earn money to pay for treatment, no matter how badly they want to. They are equally dependent on the mercy of their masters, and would starve to death just as fast as their offspring if their humans stopped pouring out the kibbles every day.

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

My dog is only 2 and is about 90% blind due to cataracts and getting worse. Vet says he can do surgery with better than a 95% success rate. $4500 is the cost. Wife and i can afford that, but just no way we're going to use those resources on our dog's sight before helping needy humans.

By that logic, you are already not helping as many people as you could by having the dog in the first place. I bet what you already spend on food for him, in US dollars per year, could feed > 1 human in Africa, before any vet bills for eye surgery. I'm not sure I would be able to justify owning a pet at all myself, if I felt that way.

There will be other people out there to donate to needy humans you refer to, but I can pretty much guarantee there will be NO other dog out there who will step in to pay for your dogs bill. You assumed that responsibility when you adopted him.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by stimpy

So do I get to pick the charity you're going to donate that 4500 bucks to? Let's do it right now

Already surpassed that and then some this year.

I won't pretend to know what you may or may not give to charity or your community. But i hope that you do.

Originally Posted by MiddleAgedAl

By that logic, you are already not helping as many people as you could by having the dog in the first place. I bet what you already spend on food for him, in US dollars per year, could feed > 1 human in Africa, before any vet bills for eye surgery. I'm not sure I would be able to justify owning a pet at all myself, if I felt that way.

There will be other people out there to donate to needy humans you refer to, but I can pretty much guarantee there will be NO other dog out there who will step in to pay for your dogs bill. You assumed that responsibility when you adopted him.

By that logic? Different situations require different logical solutions. His blindness isn't life threatening and if you were to spend the day at my house you'd call me a liar if i told you he was blind. He's happy and healthy otherwise.

Back on topic....

[MrPrena]

If that former CEO treats his friend's dog like that, I wonder how he treats his investors and his own employees.....

[Devant]

Originally Posted by MrPrena

If that former CEO treats his friend's dog like that, I wonder how he treats his investors and his own employees.....

Haha touche. Probably ripping people off blind.

[954Stealth]

Originally Posted by MiddleAgedAl

Not sure there are MORE programs for pets than people. There are a lot of programs to help animals, but there are for people as well. I'd bet the cumulative dollars brought in for human charities vastly exceeds that for animals, especially including corporate donations.

Regardless, I'm not sure it makes any sense to compare the two like that, considering the HUGE difference between the 2 groups, and their comparative abilities to help themselves. People can choose to contribute to whatever charities they want, but animals cannot form charities to protect their own, they are totally dependent on people.

Humans are the top of the food chain on this planet, apex predators, or whatever you want to call us. In that sense, I'd say you could argue that presents a moral obligation for us to offer more help to those who simply cannot help themselves. Dont forget, people have an option that animals dont: getting help from other members of their own kind.

Any able-bodied adult with the most basic cognitive abilities has far more options than any domesticated animal locked in a house, to pull himself (or his friend or family member) out of any hole. If the person gets sick and can no longer work, their family & friends can still help. If a pet dog or cat gets sick, his biological family members cannot earn money to pay for treatment, no matter how badly they want to. They are equally dependent on the mercy of their masters, and would starve to death just as fast as their offspring if their humans stopped pouring out the kibbles every day..

+1
Case in point: what did the ice bucket challenge bring in in just a few weeks? $98 million USD? And what's one of the most popular pet charities.... HSUS? They bring in about $27 million per annum. It'd be hard to compile all the data from every charity and if someone can then great. Otherwise, I'd be hard pressed to think that charities guarded towards pets and wildlife bring in more donations than those for humans.