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      12-16-2014, 01:43 PM   #23
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OLED does have a better picture than the Panny plasmas (and yes, better than the Kuro), but they're FAR too expensive right now.
Unless I can work a projector into fitting in my place, I'm planning on buying OLED in 2016.
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I don't think many people will be buying OLEDs until the prices come down to earth. $10k is just too fucking much for a TV.
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I'm not sure what your definition of "foreseeable future" is, but there is already a handful of UHD sources for movies, and with DirecTV's recently launched UHD satellite already in space, UHD live TV isn't too far behind.
I do agree the visible benefit for UHD resolution is in the 80" plus image range (depending on viewing distance), but UHD is about more than resolution. UHD also adds more color information that can benefit smaller image sizes.
Don't believe "the hype" my friend. I am far from a novice when it comes to technology. I am 'plugged in' and monitor trends not only here in the states but all over the world. There are so many things hampering 4k that I won't even try to get into. But this particular article does an excellent job of dissecting the biggest obstacles: http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarch...-it-gets-here/

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Even where streaming is concerned – which is where many people see 4K’s natural home – there are significant problems. First, Netflix requires a consistent minimum of 15Mbps of broadband speed for its 4K streams to work, which is well beyond the broadband infrastructure available in many parts of the (even technically developed) world. Second, if millions of us start streaming 4K the sheer quantities of data involved will likely bring many ISPs to their knees.
I could actually see Europe being a better test environment because unlike the $$$$ hoarding ISPs here, which severely bottle neck and throttle our content, Europe and even Asia get speeds that are light years faster!
Plus the studios are in no hurry to switch cameras and tools required for 4k.
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Don't believe "the hype" my friend. I am far from a novice when it comes to technology. I am 'plugged in' and monitor trends not only here in the states but all over the world. There are so many things hampering 4k that I won't even try to get into. But this particular article does an excellent job of dissecting the biggest obstacles: http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarch...-it-gets-here/



I could actually see Europe being a better test environment because unlike the $$$$ hoarding ISPs here, which severely bottle neck and throttle our content, Europe and even Asia get speeds that are light years faster!
Plus the studios are in no hurry to switch cameras and tools required for 4k.
I still go back to the whole issue of what good is the additional resolution or data content if the overall picture is still terrible.
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Nice zx10guy! In our next house, we will have a 'dedicated HT room' and I can go all out. Your setup reminds me a lot of a friend of mine. Took him about a year to get it just like he wanted.
For now, our 'Family Room' is my HT Room as well. It is 30'x15'. But I must say, it sounds VERY impressive! All about extracting optimum sound levels from your speakers with the correct settings from the Receiver/Amp.
Thanks!

This room was years in the making from having to figure when I had the funds to finish the unfinished basement to planning out exactly how I was going to go about setting up the room. Extremely happy with the results. The acoustics are amazing. I can crank the volume in the room and everything just comes out clear with no resonance or distortion. I've had a few musicians come audition the system and they've commented how good and natural it is. The room was built for audio first while the video part was sort of a secondary thing.
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I'm not sure what your definition of "foreseeable future" is, but there is already a handful of UHD sources for movies, and with DirecTV's recently launched UHD satellite already in space, UHD live TV isn't too far behind.
I do agree the visible benefit for UHD resolution is in the 80" plus image range (depending on viewing distance), but UHD is about more than resolution. UHD also adds more color information that can benefit smaller image sizes.
Don't believe "the hype" my friend. I am far from a novice when it comes to technology. I am 'plugged in' and monitor trends not only here in the states but all over the world. There are so many things hampering 4k that I won't even try to get into. But this particular article dies an excellent job of dissecting the biggest obstacles: http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarch...-it-gets-here/" rel="" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.forbes.co...gets-here/</a>" rel="" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://<a href="http...-here/</a></a>" rel="" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://<a href="http...e/</a></a></a>

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Even where streaming is concerned which is where many people see 4Ks natural home there are significant problems. First, Netflix requires a consistent minimum of 15Mbps of broadband speed for its 4K streams to work, which is well beyond the broadband infrastructure available in many parts of the (even technically developed) world. Second, if millions of us start streaming 4K the sheer quantities of data involved will likely bring many ISPs to their knees.
I could actually see Europe being a better test environment because unlike the $$$$ hoarding ISPs here, which severely bottle neck and throttle our content, Europe and Eben Asia get speeds that are light years faster!
Plus the studios are in no hurry to switch cameras and tools required for 4k.
I do t want to be combative, but you simply are mistaken/misinformed.
I am not a layman; I am a person that professionals in the AV industry turn to for information on topics like this. But hey- Don't take my word for it... Here is a link about DirecTV's UHD satellite launch that lays out their live UHD programming.

For those not interested in following the link, DirectTV already broadcasts some UHD, but their new satellite will be up and running Q2 2015.

http://investor.directv.com/press-re...h/default.aspx
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BTW... UHD streaming is already available via Video Unlimited 4K, Netflix, Amazon, and MGO.
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BTW... UHD streaming is already available via Video Unlimited 4K, Netflix, Amazon, and MGO.
I have Netflix and HULU PLus and most of the time Netflix has some crappy picture quality compared to HULU.
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I do t want to be combative, but you simply are mistaken/misinformed.
I am not a layman; I am a person that professionals in the AV industry turn to for information on topics like this. But hey- Don't take my word for it... Here is a link about DirecTV's UHD satellite launch that lays out their live UHD programming.

For those not interested in following the link, DirectTV already broadcasts some UHD, but their new satellite will be up and running Q2 2015.

http://investor.directv.com/press-re...h/default.aspx
Glen, we are simply discussing my man. So I too am not trying to be argumentative. I am aware of DirecTV. IMO they have always been the "leader in cable/satellite television". They certainly place an emphasis on technology. That's why I've been with them since 2001.

Regarding streaming 4k on Netflix, yep, I know. And actually the last link/article I posted pointed out the issue with even that.
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Admittedly the vast majority argue the lack of UHD content as the reason to hold off investing in UHD hardware. The much more legitimate reason to hold off is that we are just now transitioning to "full spec" (Rec. 2020) UHD. We will see a rush of Rec. 2020 compliant gear in 2015.
With OLED following a similar timeline, you might be able to see my plan for a new display.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rec._2020" rel="" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://en.m.wikipedi.../Rec._2020</a>
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Here's a pic I just snapped of TNT (DirecTV). The NBA double header I watched tonight looked absolutely superb! Felt like I was there on the court LOL!

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The more I think about my obsession on having my home theater state of the art and everything reminds me of the vision in Wall-E where in the future we are all glued to our TVs. Sad but can't help my self
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I just ordered a set of Martin Logan ESLs last night. I went to Magnolia last night and compared everything from B&W, Energy, Mirage, and ML and the Martin Logans just blew everything else out of the water. To sweeten the deal, ML is running a promo where you get a free Martin logan Dynamo 700W sub (normally $699). Can't beat that!
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Subscribing to this thread. I don't have a dedicated theater anymore (our old house we sold 3yrs ago had it in a separate building so noise wouldn't disturb my wife & kid...that was sweet)
But I do have a couple Middle Atlantic racks full of whole house distributed audio, video and home automation gear. I'm very attached to my calibrated panasonic plasmas and am in no rush to replace them.

If you guys have any questions about home automation or AV or need to buy some gear, I own an integration company in the SF Bay Area. I mostly focus on the automation programming side. We work on projects as small as a penthouse apartment up to large $100 million dollar homes where the AV budget for the theater alone can reach well over a million dollars. One of my favorite hobbies that just happened to turn into a career.
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i like this thread.

any klipsch fans here?

i don't have the model numbers or major details in front of me but my current setup is klipsch 5.1, dennon receiver and samsung 60". i built a media center than accepts a cable card and the entire home network gets cable and streaming. there's a 5 terabyte nas in there too.
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i like this thread.

any klipsch fans here?

i don't have the model numbers or major details in front of me but my current setup is klipsch 5.1, dennon receiver and samsung 60". i built a media center than accepts a cable card and the entire home network gets cable and streaming. there's a 5 terabyte nas in there too.
Yes. Klipsch fan here. I have two sets of surround speakers, one being Klipsch. Great speakers!
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My theater room is being built out as we speak. Estimated completion will be early January.

Screen wall with stage


Second row seating riser being constructed


Side wall with cutout for built in surround


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Testing for screen size. 120" will be perfect.


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Temporary room setup but this is what I've got happening now:

Samsung 50" LED
Denon AVR 2808CI AV receiver
Front: Definitive Technology Mythos One
Center: Definitive Technology Mythos Seven
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Sub: Klipsch KSW12

Panasonic Blue Ray player, Marantz CD player for the media.

The sub is the old link in the chain, I've had it forever, but the thing slams hard. I see no reason at all to buy a new sub just cuz it's so old. The def tech's sound amazing, great mid range and very clear overall. Love the TV as well so I am pretty happy with the setup as it stands. I also need a proper TV stand. Haven't gotten around to that yet. That would make this setup look better than it does in this pic I'm sure. It's a mess but it sounds.
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I've gone with a Sanyo projector 4 years ago and never looked back. It's really hard to appreciate a good movie anymore on a TV (unless the TV gets up to 100+inches). Price for the projector and the screen was much more reasonable compared to any decent TVs out in the market and to match big sound, you really need a big screen or else it just doesn't balance. 4 years and the bulb is still going strong. I still have 6 other TVs in the house but I wouldn't waste a good movie on it.
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