GAME OVER

Year's_End · 10-18-2008, 02:59 PM

and if it is then it's worth nothing, because looks are entirely subjective. case closed.

gonzo · 10-18-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NewSong

Umm, have you seen how an Altima/Accord/Camry look? Point proven.

Oh, OK. I get it. You should have stated your point much sooner.

NewSong · 10-18-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

so your argument is based on looks then.

A big part of a car purchase is looks. Not the entire decision, but a big part. The CTS-V is ugly.

gonzo · 10-18-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

so your argument is based on looks then.

I think we should all give up.....

Year's_End · 10-18-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NewSong

A big part of a car purchase is looks. Not the entire decision, but a big part. The CTS-V is ugly.

We've located the impass to our arguments. It's all based on your opinion. So basically if the CTS-V looked good to you, it'd be worth the purchase. Right?

NewSong · 10-18-2008, 05:48 PM

Well see that's basically like asking someone, "If Rosie O' Donnell looked good to you, would you date her?"

There are certain truths about design that you can't just play off to "personal opinion." You might be able to for a certain fraction of the population, but in general, there is a certain "truth" in appeal.

Year's_End · 10-18-2008, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NewSong

Well see that's basically like asking someone, "If Rosie O' Donnell looked good to you, would you date her?"

There are certain truths about design that you can't just play off to "personal opinion." You might be able to for a certain fraction of the population, but in general, there is a certain "truth" in appeal.

I think the CTS-V looks good. I think the plain ol' CTS looks even better. But hey, that's why we have opinions, and it's also why the matter is subjective. Catch my drift?

rubber_ducky · 10-18-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NewSong

So basically you want to drive a 4-door 500HP bus?

I think the M5, for as good a car as it is, is pretty pointless. So is the Maserati Quattraporte, and all these other 500HP luxury saloons. I mean for crying out loud, spending $60,000-$100,000 for 4-door sports car wannabees? Each their own I guess. But if people are going to claim "I'm getting a 500HP sports sedan cause I want to get groceries, and pack my kids in", I'm going to literally pass out from laughter.

It's pretty clear that you're logic is based on aesthetics. I'm sorry to hear that means so much to you. But you should continue to mention that you think it's ugly in all of your posts just in case some cares about your opinion and they missed it the last half dozen times.

And can you call a sub-8 minute nurburgring lap time a wannabee anything? The car wants to be a monster and it succeeds triumphantly. And at a damn good price too.

p.s. I never suggested that your car cost $50k. I do know that mine did though ($49k actually, but what's $1k amongst friends?). And that's without nav & an auto tranny. And this is the case with a majority of the members here.

louz4 · 10-18-2008, 06:38 PM

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I Heard they are letting the Nursing home people out extra early so they can be the first in line for this Whale come Nov. 1.

Buckle up Gramps.!!!!!!!!!

Watch who your calling gramps. Don't make me put my teeth in, pull up my diaper and come over there.

NewSong · 10-18-2008, 06:46 PM

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And can you call a sub-8 minute nurburgring lap time a wannabee anything? The car wants to be a monster and it succeeds triumphantly. And at a damn good price too.

A slightly used Z06 is cheaper and would run circles around it.

rubber_ducky · 10-18-2008, 07:14 PM

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A slightly used Z06 is cheaper and would run circles around it.

Suddenly we're back to the door/seat argument. Obviously, the Z06 it has 2 less of each.

NewSong · 10-18-2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rubber_ducky

Suddenly we're back to the door/seat argument. Obviously, the Z06 it has 2 less of each.

The CTS-V is also x2 as ugly.

gonzo · 10-18-2008, 07:35 PM

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quagmire · 10-18-2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NewSong

The CTS-V is also x2 as ugly.

That is your opinion. Your argument stops there. Please now for the sake of my sanity stop bringing up subjective points. You brought up the looks of it. Please for now on use objective facts to bash a car once you state your opinion.

E82tt6 · 10-19-2008, 06:04 PM

I got invited by Caddy to go do a test drive event on 10-7. A portion of it will be on a closed private track.

I'll let y'all know what I think.

gonzo · 10-20-2008, 07:29 AM

Do you mean 11-7?

A CTS-V demo? A review would be awesome if so.

TSM330i · 10-20-2008, 09:51 AM

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That argument is very weird to me. So with 4 people in a sedan, do you expect to be using 500hp at any time? Seems to defeat the purpose of safety, and comfort if you're going to race with 4 people inside the car.

If you're going to buy a car for performance, buy a car that is 100% focused into it. If you're buying for utility, that can be had for way under $60,000. Plenty of cars have decent power, room, and comfort in the $25,000-$35,000. These $60,000-$100,000 500hp "sports sedans" seem like a waste of money to me, and are pretty ugly. Each their own, but I don't see the point of this car, the Porsche panamera, Maserati Quattroporte, most of them hideous and if you're just going to carry 4 people in a car, why would you need a 500hp engine that can do 0-60 in under 5 seconds?

I think a car that tries to satisfy too many requirements at once, doesn't end up being the best in any of them.

With your mind set - I'm not really sure why you're even posting replies on this thread. If these vehicles are a waste to you, why even waste your time writing YOUR opinion and how everyone else's is wrong?

Oh, I never said anything about "racing around with four people in the car." I go to the track when I want to race.

gonzo · 10-20-2008, 10:45 AM

Carry your co-workers and family around all week. Hit the track on the weekend.

E82tt6 · 10-20-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzo

Do you mean 11-7?

A CTS-V demo? A review would be awesome if so.

Yes, 11-7. Some event Caddy is doing on a race track. 75 cars, and everyone gets a pro instructor in the passenger seat!

Year's_End · 10-20-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzo

Carry your co-workers and family around all week. Hit the track on the weekend.

The perfect combo.

Sam Da Man · 10-20-2008, 12:38 PM

not feeling the grills

gonzo · 10-20-2008, 12:44 PM

I don't care for the BBQ pit grill either. Matt black paint would tone it down some.

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