[Year's_End]

lmao imola

[imolazhp_ci]

Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

lmao imola

seriously. gay's in A4's and and Persians in E350 Lease specials. it's hilarious. you can pick them out like a black guy at a rodeo. i'm not being any kind of "'ist." it's just an observation.

[Chunga]

Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci

seriously. gay's in A4's and and Persians in E350 Lease specials. it's hilarious. you can pick them out like a black guy at a rodeo. i'm not being any kind of "'ist." it's just an observation.

Fat people in mercedes and old pepole in Audi. I cant remember if gay´s are alowed to drive over here.

[UltimateBMW]

I'm a bit disappointed it is only 270~ish hp. I would expect a bit more, considering that the obvious competition is the Z4M.

[footie]

Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci

no it won't all it is is the regular 2.0T with the software changed to be exactly what an aftermarket chip would do. like i said above, all it is is normal 2.0TQ with a factory "chip" and bodywork/rims.

I think you are wrong here, I have taken time to check out some other Audi sites and it looks like it's a new engine, not the same as the regular 2.0TFSi which the S3 uses. This new engine they are saying is designed to go up to 300hp in Audi trim (full Audi warranty coverage) to while the S3 can to tuned without any work to 310hp, this engine is able to go to 340hp, again with no work/parts needing changed.

I wonder will there be much lag compared to the 335i, I can't believe Audi can match the BMW with 1000cc less, though Audi are the masters of turbo technology.

[hks786]

From reliable source:

Official 0-100 km/h =

5.2s (manual) (both Coupe)
5.0s (s-tronic)

Official Weight =

1,395kg (Coupe)
1,455kg (Roadster)

Average fuel cons. =

8.0l/100km/h (Coupe)
8.2l/100km/h (Roadster)

Base Price Germany =

44,900 Euro (Coupe) (both inc. tax)
47,750 Euro (Roadster)

[pdjafari]

poor reliability, basically a rebadged VW except twice as much...no thanks

[omg516]

I think the regular 2.0t TT only comes in fwd. The 3.2 comes with quattro, but the motor is quite a bit heavier so it throws off the balance and they say its not as fun to drive. Now you take the lighter 2.0t motor, add some power and quattro and the TT-s should drive quite a bit differently from the 3.2. I read that the current TT is actually 200lb lighter than the previous model and its quite a capable car.

[neuzpeed]

man i have to give audi design team props... they keep making very beautiful cars!!

[footie]

I think a few BMW guys will be surprised how capable this TT/S will be, I have driven both normal models, fwd and awd but the one which is the most appealing is believe it or not the basic fwd car and it's all down to the weight and the cracking turbo engine.

If it can impress with only 200hp and a 0-60 in 6.4s then just think what an extra 70hp and 1.4s off the same acceleration speed and there may be the odd 335i owners how will be caught with the pants down unless the straights are bloody long.

Of course talking about stock vs stock.

[T Bone]

Wow another Audi thread....

Serious part of the post:
I am really impressed with the weight and power-to-weight ratio.

The lighter side:
I wonder if Audi will offer SPA and Facial packages with this car?

[E90ice]

I drove one (not S model) on a small track and it was pretty quick and handled very good.

[shiyan]

I guess it competes against the Z4 3.0si and the future TT-RS competes with the Z4M

[ojungoon]

Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci

i am sure it is not. it's already FSI, what could they possible change, other than FSI and displacement increases Audi hasn't made a new engine in literally 8 years or so.

Z4M owner getting nervous!
Its gonna be close!

Personally I would take this TT over Z4M
I know looks are subjective but z4's are so ugly

[footie]

Originally Posted by shiyan

I guess it competes against the Z4 3.0si and the future TT-RS competes with the Z4M

Talk is among other Audi sites that the TT/RS will be coming sometime in 2009 (probably late in the year) and will be using a 5cylinder 2.3~2.5L engine, the output being discussed are anything from 340hp up to 375hp, either is very possible and when you consider the weight difference between the TT and Z4M the BMW will be at a disadvantage unless BMW give it more power, possibly the new 4.0L v8 from the M3 but even then the extra torque and still lighter weight should only even things up.

It's one occasion that I doubt BMW will win as Audi do seem to be on a roll with everything they place the letter R on it's boot.

[southlight]

Originally Posted by ojungoon

Z4M owner getting nervous!
Its gonna be close!

What? The Z4M has a significant better power to weight ratio. It won't be close:

Z4 M Coupe: 343PS - 1495kg : 4.36 kg/PS
TTS Coupe: 272PS - 1470kg : 5.40 kg/PS

Z4 M Roadster: 343PS - 1485kg: 4.33 kg/PS
TTS Roadster: 272PS - 1530kg: 5.63 kg/PS

It's comprehensible to like the TTS more than the Z4M, but not due to performance...


Best regards, south

[footie]

Originally Posted by southlight

What? The Z4M has a significant better power to weight ratio. It won't be close:

Z4 M Coupe: 343PS - 1495kg : 4.36 kg/PS
TTS Coupe: 272PS - 1470kg : 5.40 kg/PS

Z4 M Roadster: 343PS - 1485kg: 4.33 kg/PS
TTS Roadster: 272PS - 1530kg: 5.63 kg/PS

It's comprehensible to like the TTS more than the Z4M, but not due to performance...


Best regards, south

I know these remarks where directed at ojungoon. But I reckon the TT/RS will put up a much better fight, especially if it ends up with 375hp, also I reckon Audi will endeavour to reduce the weight more.

South, I understand what you are saying about the ptw between the TT/S and the Z4M but the Audi does look to be punching above it's weight, 5.2s to 60mph isn't the sort of figures one expects from something weighing 1470Kgs (remember to add 75kgs) and having 272hp. I reckon the true figure may be closer to 290hp.

[southlight]

Originally Posted by footie

I know these remarks where directed at ojungoon. But I reckon the TT/RS will put up a much better fight, especially if it ends up with 375hp, also I reckon Audi will endeavour to reduce the weight more.

+1
Now that we're agreeing that the S5 isn't a real competitor to the M3 someone picks up Z4M vs TTS...

South, I understand what you are saying about the ptw between the TT/S and the Z4M but the Audi does look to be punching above it's weight, 5.2s to 60mph isn't the sort of figures one expects from something weighing 1470Kgs (remember to add 75kgs) and having 272hp. I reckon the true figure may be closer to 290hp.

Either that way or the 5.2 closer to 5.8


Best regards, south

[footie]

Originally Posted by southlight

+1
Now that we're agreeing that the S5 isn't a real competitor to the M3 someone picks up Z4M vs TTS...

I don't think anyone sees the TT/S as a rival to the Z4M, power wise it's closest rival is the Z4 3.0Sport but I doubt it would stand much of a chance against something which on paper seem a lot more focused. I reckon it's closer in performance to a stock 335i M/Sport.

Originally Posted by southlight

Either that way or the 5.2 closer to 5.8


Best regards, south

South even a heavier TT3.2 can post better than this and knowing how capable the S3 is with more weight, slightly less power and a manual box instead of DSG, I reckon the TT/S will have no problems equalling these figures. But I am more curious as to whether you thing a car with these quoted output and weight figures should be capable of this time.

Also assuming it is capable of 0-60mph in 5.2s, have you any ideas as to a possible 0-100mph time. My guess is 13s flat, maybe even lower but I reckon around the 13 seconds is a definite possibility.

[jetblk328i]

hmm they should put that engine in the new A4 and have 2 2.0Ts but have them as 2.0T then the 3.2 , then the top of the like 2.0TT lol should be the top of the line.

[southlight]

Originally Posted by footie

South even a heavier TT3.2 can post better than this and knowing how capable the S3 is with more weight, slightly less power and a manual box instead of DSG, I reckon the TT/S will have no problems equalling these figures. But I am more curious as to whether you thing a car with these quoted output and weight figures should be capable of this time.

Also assuming it is capable of 0-60mph in 5.2s, have you any ideas as to a possible 0-100mph time. My guess is 13s flat, maybe even lower but I reckon around the 13 seconds is a definite possibility.

Did a quick search, found two tests of the S3. Sportauto achieved a 5.8s (0-100kph) and a 13.6 (0-160kph). Based on that 13s flat for the TTS is possible.
Another test in German Autozeitung showed only a 6.5s 0-100kph. Based on that neither 5.2s nor flat 13s for 0-100mph is likely.

So IMO the stats for the TTS are optimistic, but I wouldn't go so far to say unrealistic. With 290hp (like you reckoned) and a test car weight being as low as possible, the numbers could be achieved.


Best regards, south

[footie]

Originally Posted by southlight

Did a quick search, found two tests of the S3. Sportauto achieved a 5.8s (0-100kph) and a 13.6 (0-160kph). Based on that 13s flat for the TTS is possible.
Another test in German Autozeitung showed only a 6.5s 0-100kph. Based on that neither 5.2s nor flat 13s for 0-100mph is likely.

So IMO the stats for the TTS are optimistic, but I wouldn't go so far to say unrealistic. With 290hp (like you reckoned) and a test car weight being as low as possible, the numbers could be achieved.


Best regards, south

Actually there is another test done in the UK which posted identical times as the SportAuto test and that was done by Autocar, so maybe the S3's time wasn't a one-off after all.

I too reckon the TT/S figures are on the low side and believe the quoted figures are not only possible but probable.