Pure Turbos N55 single turbo upgrade

PeterPure · 01-20-2015, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JETmn

Darkhold, any more info on the Fuel It HPFP upgrade? Their ethanol sensor and HPFP upgrade would be awesome together! I can't wait to run E85 in my car and not have to mix.

I heard the ethanol content sensor is going to be n54 only at first. As for the supplemental hpfp solution results are expected in 4 weeks.

DrRobert · 01-20-2015, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkhold

Hi Robert,

I have been running meth injection since before I had the pure stage1. This assists fuelling. After a while I decided to start using ethanol mix in my fuel and came to the following conclusion for my F series car:
- I can run E35 mix with meth injection and max out pure turbo (20 psi)
- I can run E35 mix without meth and run pure turbo at 17 psi. Then fuelling becomes an issue --> So I installed Fuel-IT stage2 LPFP but the issue remains. It turns out my HPFP can't flow enough.

I see you have a 2011 car. So you have a different design HPFP pump that does flow a bit more. I am running the Fuel-IT LPFP since end of October without any issue. However it does not help my HPFP pump limit

However Fuel-IT is making a HPFP addon solution that requires stage2 LPFP. So I am going with that once I have the pure stage2 turbo on the car.

I think you need E40/E50 (mixed with 93) to get sufficient octane to run pure at max boost. Do you want to run max boost all the time? I don't think so. So in your case I would just start with E20/E30 and start upping the boost (start at 16 psi and work your way up) and log everything. Investigate the logs and if all is good up the boost further. See where you get and once you find a limit you can think about upgrading fuel system.

Hope this helps.

Greetz,
Peter

Thanks Peter. I'm new to all this logging and boost stuff so not sure I understand it all - I just like to go fast.

I have a custom PTF remote tune (no JB4), I record logs from 2800-6500 RPM at WOT in 3rd gear on a Cobb AP and send them to PTF, then they send me a new map (i.e. they up the boost for me). To be honest, I usually don't even look at the logs before sending them, but my most recent log shows max boost of 15.8 PSI on 91 octane. Unfortunately the nearest E85 station is 30 miles from me, so at this point I'm not sure how often I'll have ethanol in the tank. My indy mechanic and PTF tuner are both recommending an LPFP upgrade with the Pure stage 1, but both Jesse at Pure and Steve at Fuel-It say the LPFP is not necessary, so frankly I'm a bit confused.

PeterPure · 01-20-2015, 12:51 PM

Indeed you dont need lpfp upgrade with pure stage1.

JETmn · 01-20-2015, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkhold

Indeed you dont need lpfp upgrade with pure stage1.

Agreed, especially on pump gas. Many of us are running E30+ on stock fuel system with the Pure upgrade.

DrRobert · 01-20-2015, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JETmn

Agreed, especially on pump gas. Many of us are running E30+ on stock fuel system with the Pure upgrade.

Thanks guys. Will likely hold off on the LPFP for now then.

Nugget · 01-20-2015, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JETmn

Darkhold, any more info on the Fuel It HPFP upgrade? Their ethanol sensor and HPFP upgrade would be awesome together! I can't wait to run E85 in my car and not have to mix.

I don't think Fuel It is going to do a HPFP upgrade, I think they are going to do a simpler version of the port injection kits that are around (Motiv, CPE).

1cleann55 · 01-20-2015, 07:31 PM

What he said ^

JETmn · 01-20-2015, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nugget

I don't think Fuel It is going to do a HPFP upgrade, I think they are going to do a simpler version of the port injection kits that are around (Motiv, CPE).

You are correct. Steve spilled the beans on N54tech earlier today.

PURE135i · 01-23-2015, 10:41 AM

the PURE stage 1 is keeping it real with the catless race gas map 7 M4!

PURE TURBOS kicks azz

houtan · 01-23-2015, 11:56 AM

You're not giving your 1er enough credit! Still stock downpipe and intercooler!!!!! Probably the only time I can say, meth is your friend lol

Even with meth, still impressive.

1cleann55 · 01-23-2015, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PURE135i

the PURE stage 1 is keeping it real with the catless race gas map 7 M4!

PURE TURBOS kicks azz

What Fuel mix are you running? Or pimp gas and meth is all?

PURE135i · 01-23-2015, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 1cleann55

What Fuel mix are you running? Or pimp gas and meth is all?

E50 and 80% meth with cm12

1cleann55 · 01-23-2015, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PURE135i

E50 and 80% meth with cm12

Still not bad if you consider the fact that a M4 on map 7 should be about 480-500whp

PURE135i · 01-23-2015, 12:54 PM

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Still not bad if you consider the fact that a M4 on map 7 should be about 480-500whp

yes this paricular one dynoed 537whp at EAS dynojet and also trapped higher than any other s55 at no fly zone bakersfield...even Terrys! 157-158mph same map and mods then and now. im way happy i had a 180-200 lb passenger for all the runs too

1cleann55 · 01-23-2015, 12:57 PM

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yes this paricular one dynoed 537whp at EAS dynojet and also trapped higher than any other s55 at no fly zone bakersfield...even Terrys! 157-158mph same map and mods then and now. im way happy i had a 180-200 lb passenger for all the runs too

By any chance have you dyno yours? And wow 537whp is nothing to sleep on crazy how he didn't disappear on you. Crazy what a stage 1 can do on these cars.

PURE135i · 01-23-2015, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 1cleann55

By any chance have you dyno yours? And wow 537whp is nothing to sleep on crazy how he didn't disappear on you. Crazy what a stage 1 can do on these cars.

yes. i am newguy123 on n54 the only dyno i have was a 370 whp run when i didnt have the BEF (back end flash) also a fat boost leak due to no CP gasket! i was slipping on the dyno DCT was..haha so now thats all fixed and no boost leak im hitting 21 psi and tapering to 19 at 6k. car is running SOOO much better. dyno will happen before i go stage 2 PURE

. (GRABINSKIE on IG)

the M4 used to dip the fuck out on 60 rollers like that before

1cleann55 · 01-23-2015, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PURE135i

yes. i am newguy123 on n54 the only dyno i have was a 370 whp run when i didnt have the BEF (back end flash) also a fat boost leak due to no CP gasket! i was slipping on the dyno DCT was..haha so now thats all fixed and no boost leak im hitting 21 psi and tapering to 19 at 6k. car is running SOOO much better. dyno will happen before i go stage 2 PURE

. (GRABINSKIE on IG)

the M4 used to dip the fuck out on 60 rollers like that before

Oh shit lol I'm here talking to you like I don't know you lol. Yeah your cars fast, giving a hurting to those silly 5.0

PURE135i · 01-23-2015, 02:01 PM

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Oh shit lol I'm here talking to you like I don't know you lol. Yeah your cars fast, giving a hurting to those silly 5.0

LOL SAWL GOOD! thanks when is your car coming back out of retirement?

1cleann55 · 01-23-2015, 02:20 PM

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LOL SAWL GOOD! thanks when is your car coming back out of retirement?

Should be done in 2 weeks.

It'll be ready for slipstream roll race event in April the 4th. I'll be racing a couple SC M3 that 500hp MS6 I beat N54 135 Camara SS and couple other cars should be fun

iuhutch · 01-23-2015, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PURE135i

yes. i am newguy123 on n54 the only dyno i have was a 370 whp run when i didnt have the BEF (back end flash) also a fat boost leak due to no CP gasket! i was slipping on the dyno DCT was..haha so now thats all fixed and no boost leak im hitting 21 psi and tapering to 19 at 6k. car is running SOOO much better. dyno will happen before i go stage 2 PURE

. (GRABINSKIE on IG)

the M4 used to dip the fuck out on 60 rollers like that before

LOL, i was confused too! Was wondering someone else was posting your vid and discussion your options! :P

Pure Turbos · 01-27-2015, 12:59 PM

Hey guys,

We just VSR balanced our first N55 PURE Stage 2 CHRA. We are very excited, it turned out wonderful. All is going as planned.

We will start a new thread to begin posting updates and details in the near future.

Thanks to all for your patience.

-PURE

rhm135 · 01-27-2015, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pure Turbos

Hey guys,

We just VSR balanced our first N55 PURE Stage 2 CHRA. We are very excited, it turned out wonderful. All is going as planned.

We will start a new thread to begin posting updates and details in the near future.

Thanks to all for your patience.

-PURE

This just made my day!

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Pure Turbos Captain 563 Rep 681 Posts Drives: Turbo Cars Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Oceanside, CA iTrader: (0)	Hey guys, We just VSR balanced our first N55 PURE Stage 2 CHRA. We are very excited, it turned out wonderful. All is going as planned. We will start a new thread to begin posting updates and details in the near future. Thanks to all for your patience. -PURE
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