Originally Posted by 2K5 325i

You are correct, Corvette's are not known for their great handling, although the C6 Z06 certainly is.

,
-Chris.

yup. the new Z06 is a corvette i would actually (finally) get

[ykspeed]

Originally Posted by hl0m4n

yea performance in a straight line. vettes aren't known to have great handling. the gtr offers both performance and handling.

Maybe it's not known to you, but that just means you don't know much or you're thinking about old corvettes. Have you driven a new vette on a track or read about how it performs? In C&D's lightning lap, a non-z06 beat a R8 and a 911 turbo around VIR. The Z06 destroyed everything and even beat the times of the gt3 and ford gt. It might not be as fun to drive or as easy to drive, but it definitely has great handling.

[sdiver68]

Originally Posted by 2K5 325i

You are correct, Corvette's are not known for their great handling, although the C6 Z06 certainly is.

,
-Chris.

Vette's have handled well since the C5.

[PAKMAN]

gtr ftw

[mesier1111]

Originally Posted by BHairsto

I'm a die-hard BMW fan, but it's ridiculous to even begin to compare the E92 M3 to the GT-R on a performance basis. I'm not saying it's unjustified to prefer the M3, but the GT-R is on a totally different level when it comes to performance - this is a car that has supposedly already outrun a 911 Turbo at the ring. I'm not a big fan of the profile view of the GT-R, and the interior does little for me, but if I were looking for a pure performance car below $100K, the GT-R would be my first or second choice. People who dismiss this car as a 'Nissan' and assume its handling will be inferior to the M3's handling are doing the equivalent of calling a Z06 a 'Chevy'-- the badge is irrelevant (except for certain people's egos), and the GT-R has a performance heritage that is matched by very few cars in history. I have a feeling that cars like the GT-R will go a long way towards changing a few minds about the ability of a few other companies to compete with BMW and Porsche.

Perectly said, +1!!!! I'm DEF thinking about getting it over a e92 M3.

[FinInk]

Originally Posted by dr325i

+1
The looks and $70k nissan are really not the attractive point here when you can get the M3 for the same price. It may be a bit slower, so what -- handling and other aspects will never be matched by Nissan...

I am patiently waiting for the 2011 e90 M3...

lmao, right, thats why the GTR beat the 911 turbo's track number which in other words has killed the e90 M3's times.

Comon guys, you keep mentioning the name Nissan like its a curse. Nissan, believe it or not for some of you folks, has a long history of sports cars also. The GTR has been around for a long time but just hasn't seen (at least without importing) alot of state side time. I'd gladly pay that much for the GTR, NISSAN or not.

[TheAcAvenger]

Planning on getting? Probably not. Definitely a consideration. My heart still longs for a 911. I'd take the GT-R over everything else under $100k though.

As an unbiased car fan, I think the GTR has everybody beat under 100k. There's no doubting this. The only cars that will give it a fight would be your top tier vettes (Z06 and ZR-1 if thats what they choose to name it). I don't understand the E92 M3 comparison... we're talking about a car built from the ground up to be a "supercar." It has nothing to do with badging. I love that its a Nissan. Take the glitz and glamour out of a car and get back to cars meant to be driven.

But hey, i'm not rolling in the bread like some of you guys on the forum! If i'm spending that much for a car, it's going to have to do more than go fast. Which is why i'll take the 911 (C2S or GT3). I'll openly admit that the GTR is likely the superior car, though. Whoever gets one in the mid-atlantic needs to bring it to a meet and give us rides.

[Carnage]

Originally Posted by hl0m4n

yea performance in a straight line. vettes aren't known to have great handling.

Originally Posted by 2K5 325i

You are correct, Corvette's are not known for their great handling, although the C6 Z06 certainly is.

,
-Chris.

wow, have you guys been in a coma for the last 10 years since the C5 was released? C6 Corvette is smoking cars that cost twice as much on a track or a straight line and the Z06 smokes just about everything the C6 doesn't (which isn't a long list). Do some research before you make asinine comments like that.

[Carnage]

Originally Posted by TheAcAvenger

Planning on getting? Probably not. Definitely a consideration. My heart still longs for a 911. I'd take the GT-R over everything else under $100k though.

As an unbiased car fan, I think the GTR has everybody beat under 100k. There's no doubting this. The only cars that will give it a fight would be your top tier vettes (Z06 and ZR-1 if thats what they choose to name it). I don't understand the E92 M3 comparison... we're talking about a car built from the ground up to be a "supercar." It has nothing to do with badging. I love that its a Nissan. Take the glitz and glamour out of a car and get back to cars meant to be driven.

But hey, i'm not rolling in the bread like some of you guys on the forum! If i'm spending that much for a car, it's going to have to do more than go fast. Which is why i'll take the 911 (C2S or GT3). I'll openly admit that the GTR is likely the superior car, though. Whoever gets one in the mid-atlantic needs to bring it to a meet and give us rides.

nice post.

You exactly right, the GT-R is going to be a awesome car and if the numbers are correct, it and the Z06 are going to be running neck and neck in just about every performance measurement (although the Z06 will have a higher top speed) at the same price and those 2 cars will be the "under 100K" benchmark until the ZR1 hits the streets and changes the rules again.

The GT-R has a back seat which does add a level of practicality that the Z06 or the ZR1 will not possess but I doubt few people who buy the car will be using the back seat. That being said, if the price is $75-80K I would probably buy the GT-R instead of the Z06. If you want Z06 level power and handling, you can buy a regular C6 for 25K less and get it there and beyond for alot cheaper.

[hl0m4n]

Originally Posted by ykspeed

Maybe it's not known to you, but that just means you don't know much or you're thinking about old corvettes. Have you driven a new vette on a track or read about how it performs? In C&D's lightning lap, a non-z06 beat a R8 and a 911 turbo around VIR. The Z06 destroyed everything and even beat the times of the gt3 and ford gt. It might not be as fun to drive or as easy to drive, but it definitely has great handling.

non-z06 beat r8 and 911 turbo? this is new to me. but if what you say is true then a+ for the new vettes but still i would never get a vette in my life. yes its the bang for the buck i guess but i would much rather take the r8 or def the 911 over a vette minus the price difference...

[sdiver68]

Originally Posted by Carnage

nice post.

The GT-R has a back seat which does add a level of practicality that the Z06 or the ZR1 will not possess but I doubt few people who buy the car will be using the back seat.

Well I must be one of the few. No back seat in the 'Vette (and Cayman S) is a deal breaker for me. I don't need a big one, just enough to stuff a kid or 2 into for a short trip if for some reason I don't have my truck.

[hl0m4n]

looking at both top gear and 5th gear video of the z06, it runs nurburgring faster then the zonda f? now that surely doesn't make sense to me.

also found this out the designer of the r8 is married to the ceo or porsches daughter. very cool. a r8-rs model with the gallardo v10 is rumored to be released soon too..

[Crea]

Originally Posted by choiffer

I just dont think its worth payin that much for a nissan, although it is the Skyline. I would rather get the M3 anyday.

its not a Skyline... its Nissan GTR

what you are driving is a Skyline

[BHairsto]

Originally Posted by TheAcAvenger

Planning on getting? Probably not. Definitely a consideration. My heart still longs for a 911. I'd take the GT-R over everything else under $100k though.

As an unbiased car fan, I think the GTR has everybody beat under 100k. There's no doubting this. The only cars that will give it a fight would be your top tier vettes (Z06 and ZR-1 if thats what they choose to name it). I don't understand the E92 M3 comparison... we're talking about a car built from the ground up to be a "supercar." It has nothing to do with badging. I love that its a Nissan. Take the glitz and glamour out of a car and get back to cars meant to be driven.

But hey, i'm not rolling in the bread like some of you guys on the forum! If i'm spending that much for a car, it's going to have to do more than go fast. Which is why i'll take the 911 (C2S or GT3). I'll openly admit that the GTR is likely the superior car, though. Whoever gets one in the mid-atlantic needs to bring it to a meet and give us rides.

We're on the same page. The 911 is my dream car. The GT-R will make it difficult for me to to actually spend my money on a 911S (the highest model I could see myself being able to afford) if I am ever in a position to buy either because the GT-R is likely to be a significantly better performer in most aspects. However, the 911 will always have a special place in my heart--it's a classy car inside and out, and the GT-R just doesn't generate the same type of emotion for me. These cars and the upcoming RS5 are my current favorites @ less than $100K, and are why I will be releasing my spot for the E92 M3.

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by BHairsto

We're on the same page. The 911 is my dream car. The GT-R will make it difficult for me to to actually spend my money on a 911S (the highest model I could see myself being able to afford) if I am ever in a position to buy either because the GT-R is likely to be a significantly better performer in most aspects. However, the 911 will always have a special place in my heart--it's a classy car inside and out, and the GT-R just doesn't generate the same type of emotion for me. These cars and the upcoming RS5 are my current favorites @ less than $100K, and are why I will be releasing my spot for the E92 M3.

I've been wondering how many people have changed their minds about the M3. Not hating on it, it would be an amazing car to have, but is a M3 really worth $70k w/options and taxes included? I felt $43k was a really nice price for a 335, so I went with it. $25k diff for a M3, no. $25k diff for a GT-R, yes. 911 Turbo? In my dreams!

[sdiver68]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

I've been wondering how many people have changed their minds about the M3. Not hating on it, it would be an amazing car to have, but is a M3 really worth $70k w/options and taxes included? I felt $43k was a really nice price for a 335, so I went with it. $25k diff for a M3, no. $25k diff for a GT-R, yes. 911 Turbo? In my dreams!

Ever since the M3 specs and prices were released I've been very disappointed in the M3.


The RS4 was out 2years ago with virtually the same engine specs, and the GT-R, C63, and upcoming CTS-V all make a strong case in making the new M3 an also ran.

[ALPINE6SPD]

Originally Posted by jaiman

I'm pretty interested. There was a line in the AutoWeek preview that sold me:

"Chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno said the new GT-R was designed and engineered as an all-around, all-season, all-weather car that is comfortable to drive every day, even at normal speeds on a normal day. "

A 4 seasons super car sounds pretty great. Throw in a usable trunk and I'm sold.

I guess your getting it then

[E90ice]

For the GT-R to beat the C6 Z06 it would need to have around 600hp, since the GT-R weights around 3800 lbs.
It's also 300 lbs heavier than the 997 Turbo, so until I see some REAL evidence, all this is just BS.

Rumors are just that..rumors...

[Los Angeles]

Originally Posted by E90ice

For the GT-R to beat the C6 Z06 it would need to have around 600hp, since the GT-R weights around 3800 lbs.
It's also 300 lbs heavier than the 997 Turbo, so until I see some REAL evidence, all this is just BS.

Rumors are just that..rumors...

The GT-R going to premiere at the Tokyo Motor Show in less than 10 hours. The full specs should surface the web by tomorrow morning.

[sdiver68]

Originally Posted by E90ice

For the GT-R to beat the C6 Z06 it would need to have around 600hp, since the GT-R weights around 3800 lbs.
It's also 300 lbs heavier than the 997 Turbo, so until I see some REAL evidence, all this is just BS.

Rumors are just that..rumors...

me a river.

[SpecC]

Originally Posted by sdiver68

me a river.

i don't see why you are all like this because it's a nissan. If BMW released information like this about the M3, we would probably see 3 pages of THAT IS SO AWESOME I LOVE BMW!
GT-R's have always been fast cars in their own right, and they're great for tuners to mess with because the engine is so beautifully made. I'm not saying the M3's engine isn't as good, but the GT-R has a much bigger market for the modding community too. It may not be the prettiest car in the world, but who cares when you can go that fast? If it can beat a 911 on the 'ring, I think that's pretty damn impressive already.

[jaiman]

Originally Posted by ALPINE6SPD

I guess your getting it then

Its number one on the list right now. Timing looks like it will work out perfectly. My current car's loan is up in jan 09. Hopefully by that point the ADMs will be gone.

of course, if nissan decides to screw us Canadians with a 30% mark up over the US price that may change things.