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07-04-2023, 09:26 PM | #89 | |
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07-05-2023, 01:45 AM | #91 | |
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This. I will not tip someone just because a shitty employer or government wage system tries to coerce the consumer into tipping, or makes service providers feel some sort of entitlement when they are providing a basic service at very ordinary standards. These predatory practices do not deserve to be rewarded in any way IMHO. Tipping is done best when it rewards exceptional service or advice - something that is of actual economic value to the consumer. I understand some industries are more conducive to generating tips than others are, like a factory worker has absolutely zero chance of receiving tips in his/her job, etc. But that is not a problem that is resolved by normalising tipping in every industry. That is resolved by having adequate minimum wages, working conditions, some level of relativity in bargaining powers between workers and business owners, and business owners and investors running a profitable business to begin with. Just because Uber makes zero profit doesn't mean we should feel obligated to chip in and pay their workers and perpetuate what is essentially a failed business model. That money is better spent on services that deserve to exist in my view. I will probably tip someone if he/she goes above and beyond expectations with the level of service that I receive, or if he/she gives me free advice that leads to me going for an alternative elsewhere that leads to me saving some money. And if he/she doesn't ask for a dime in return, I sure as hell will make a point of tipping and going out of my way to tell their employer and everyone else how exceptional the service was.
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07-05-2023, 02:00 AM | #92 |
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I'd demand that be removed from the bill. They can't force you to pay that. I've been to restaurants with shitty service, and told them to put the total through the card machine WITHOUT the tip. They don't like it, but there's nothing they can do legally.
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07-05-2023, 08:32 AM | #94 |
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Would happily pay 4% so the restaurant can give their staff health insurance. Thats a huge benefit to working at that restaurant, likely helping to decrease staff turnover -> fewer trainees -> better food quality.
Also, if you have universal healthcare in your country (UK and Switzerland, for a few random examples!) then you should feel pity for the restaurant staff who don't have a system like this one above. |
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"All of our menu items include a 4% markup, so we can provide our valuable staff with health insurance."
But what about the not-so-valuable staff?????
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Just raise prices by 4% and provide insurance, if that's what you really want to do. Customers can decide if your pricing still provides value and choose whether or not to patronize your establishment. By putting it on as a surcharge and allowing the customer to "ask to have it removed" you're putting the customer in a shitty position with the server if he/she asks to have it removed.
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07-05-2023, 12:56 PM | #102 | |
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Why is this ok at a restaurant but nowhere else, which also have other benefits as well?
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07-05-2023, 12:58 PM | #103 |
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I haven't stopped tipping, but I absolutely resent the growing sense of entitlement that some people/places have with the entire tipping culture (Door Dash driver cussing out a patron for tipping "just" 25% of the order, or being required to tip with zero human interaction or service; tons of examples in the thread already). Disgusting.
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That being said, I tip well generally. Food generally gets ~30%, haircuts usually $20 on top of $25. |
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07-05-2023, 01:05 PM | #106 |
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sigh, this will again get nowhere. some believe its all good and fair up until the point where they get strapped for cash. these same people are likely in debt and not spending their own money and generously tipping. Again, the argument isn't healthcare and this thread shouldn't get derailed there, but a very common tactic even in car sales is to decontruct the price and use it to justify high costs. its tends to be a guilt trip and total bullshit.
the fact of the matter is waiters are totally useless. A kiosk on the table with runners is far more efficient and pleasant. But no one wants to have that conversation. doordashers and such, idk I don't use that shit because I don't like to tip my valets open the door for me, shit irks me. offer me to carry my things, get a cart. like I can do everything myself, ergo I don't need to tip lol. Theres a chicken and rice cart, shit cost 5 bucks. Dude always hooks my platter up with the correct amount of sauce. I threw him a c note last christmas. That is a tip based on service. He provides great service regardless of a FORCED tipping architecure. |
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07-05-2023, 01:33 PM | #110 | ||
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Also, I'm also not going to say that universal healthcare isn't without it's own issues. And honestly, that's great for your brother, truly (no sarcasm), the point is that you were able to afford it and MANY others cannot. Rest assured that, for the wealthy (aka most of us here, arguing about a $5 charge when the REAL robbery here is $19 for friggin lettuce bruschetta?? Wth) the current system is preferable because we can afford coverage. In any case, i'm not sure why i waded into the waters of defending this change based on the tone in this thread already set. Arguing on the internet, etc etc. Have a good day, chaps. |
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