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      08-15-2013, 06:30 PM   #1
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New Mustang to Lose 400 Pounds!

http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2015...on-a-diet.html

smaller, lighter, irs, more power. SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
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      08-15-2013, 07:21 PM   #2
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Ford is not playing around.
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      08-15-2013, 10:47 PM   #3
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The mules don't look to be about 173" long.....
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      08-15-2013, 11:59 PM   #4
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yea 15" sounds like an exaggeration. test mules are still far from a production model, though
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      08-16-2013, 12:06 AM   #5
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Between this and the flat plane crank GT350 rumors. This is sound to good to be true.
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      08-16-2013, 05:22 AM   #6
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based on the length and weight targets....the next Mustang will be nearly the same dimensions as the current e82 1er.

from my sources in the industry....the Challenger replacement is also going to be MUCH smaller and they are bringing the badge "Barracuda" back. Looks like the muscle car wars are getting ready for another round of battle!
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      08-16-2013, 02:26 PM   #7
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Finally a manufacturer that realizes bigger is not better. Smaller and lighter BMW could take some lessons here.
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      08-16-2013, 03:42 PM   #8
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This would only be helpful if the drivers and passengers were lighter....Murica #1
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I've heard also that they're going to be using a cross-plane crank like Ferrari does in their new engines for higher revs and less mass.
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This would only be helpful if the drivers and passengers were lighter....Murica #1
Well, we cant all be 50lb asians
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If the new GT gets 450HP and tips the scales in the 3100 range, it should be a real performer. A Cobra/GT500/SVO model could get very interesting.

I am so glad that they are bringing the size of the cars down a little bit. The Mustang has gotten a little bit large for my liking. Will see if any of the other manufacturers "pony" cars will follow this trend.
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If the new GT gets 450HP and tips the scales in the 3100 range, it should be a real performer. A Cobra/GT500/SVO model could get very interesting.

I am so glad that they are bringing the size of the cars down a little bit. The Mustang has gotten a little bit large for my liking. Will see if any of the other manufacturers "pony" cars will follow this trend.
The Barrucuda will be a bit smaller. The sixth gen Camaro will depend if it is on Alpha or Alpha+. I would bet on Alpha which would make it smaller too.
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So what's up with that one spy shot of a preproduction mustang where they added like 2 inches of width on each side of the current mustang? Completely contradictory to what's going on here.

Ill believe it when I see it. unless ford has been making their frames for the mustang out of lead over the years, don't see how this is going to happen in such a short time. 400 lbs is a LOT to shed, and for a car that's supposed to be a daily drivable, comfortable car, I don't see how ford can shed so much weight without using very light and expensive materials, or completely cheap out on the car...or make it a very small car.

I'm just tying to think of all the cars out in the market now that weigh around 3100lbs, and think in my mind about how small they are compared to the mustang.

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So what's up with that one spy shot of a preproduction mustang where they added like 2 inches of width on each side of the current mustang? Completely contradictory to what's going on here.

Ill believe it when I see it. unless ford has been making their frames for the mustang out of lead over the years, don't see how this is going to happen in such a short time. 400 lbs is a LOT to shed, and for a car that's supposed to be a daily drivable, comfortable car, I don't see how ford can shed so much weight without using very light and expensive materials, or completely cheap out on the car...or make it a very small car.

I'm just tying to think of all the cars out in the market now that weigh around 3100lbs, and think in my mind about how small they are compared to the mustang.
I'm with you. The mustang has a tried and true following. Introducing a much smaller car is going to interrupt that. Many Mustang owners use their cars as daily drivers and kid haulers. It has become a jack of all trades sports car. You can't provide all of the things Mustang owners want at 3100lbs for about 35k. Something has to give.
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I'm with you. The mustang has a tried and true following. Introducing a much smaller car is going to interrupt that. Many Mustang owners use their cars as daily drivers and kid haulers. It has become a jack of all trades sports car. You can't provide all of the things Mustang owners want at 3100lbs for about 35k. Something has to give.
Look at he early evolution of the Mustang. 65-66 smaller lighter cars, 67 it started to grow, 68-70's it became a bloated pig, 76-Mustang II shrank back down, Fox body years stayed small. The current retro 05-up generation ballooned up in size again. Not so far out of the realm for the next generation to down size. The new Mustang is supposed to be the first Mustang for the world not just U.S. That alone would make a case for a smaller size.
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If they put a DAMN TELESCOPIC STEERING COLUMN in it this time then I'm going to have to postpone my plans for a BRZ.
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Ill believe it when I see it. unless ford has been making their frames for the mustang out of lead over the years, don't see how this is going to happen in such a short time. 400 lbs is a LOT to shed, and for a car that's supposed to be a daily drivable, comfortable car, I don't see how ford can shed so much weight without using very light and expensive materials, or completely cheap out on the car...or make it a very small car.

I'm just tying to think of all the cars out in the market now that weigh around 3100lbs, and think in my mind about how small they are compared to the mustang.
I believe the latter is true. They will shrink the car, which I think they will have to do if they want to sell it globally. 12-15" sounds about right, since the current Mustang is a huge boat and needs some downsizing anyway.

Also, increasing the use of high strength steel/ultra-high strength steel can the lower the weight and not raise the cost very much.
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