[Samjam927]

Originally Posted by MisterSkiMask

I know very little about it, but I am interested in a Pistol Caliber Carbine. Its cool that you can use Glock Mags in it (depending on which one you buy).

It costs more, but the Beretta CX4 Storm Carbine is more appealing to me.

Yeah something cheap that shoots pistol calibers interests me, that Hi Point is also an alternate option. I just can't find anyone with Sub2ks in stock

[MP0WER]

Originally Posted by immiketoo

A) IRA



B) Assholes everywhere



C) And make S'mores



D) All of the above

The IRA was the first thing that came to mind when i read his post. haha

[MP0WER]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

Been looking around and Sig Sauer 1911 TACOPS may be the one, saw it in person the other day. I'll probably go to a local gun show towards the end of the year and see what I can find.

This thread is killing me, every time I see it I have to go get mine out and take it apart.

That's sweet man. Pretty much the same thing as the Sig Scorpion. According to that blog i posed the link on, Sig uses wilson, brown or bear small parts.

I'll be shooting both the Sig and Nighthawk tomorrow. i'll give you a report afterwards.

[spanner1751]

Originally Posted by MisterSkiMask

Aluminum cases are not allowed at some ranges

There's nothing wrong with the ammo, just that the range sells the brass, and doesn't want to take the time to sort through it.

[CollinsE90]

You guys need to watch "God Bless America"

Some 1911 action

[eamon]

Lol at how they throw in the E46 at the end

[MisterSkiMask]

Originally Posted by spanner1751

There's nothing wrong with the ammo, just that the range sells the brass, and doesn't want to take the time to sort through it.

I didn't say there is anything wrong with it. But if you can't use it where you shoot then it is not worth having (unless you are stock piling).

[Coding@DetailAddict]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

You guys need to watch "God Bless America"

Some 1911 action

haha want to see that now!

[dasReaper]

Now that you people have successfully given me the 1911 bug I've been researching them. I've been thinking about either getting a Springfield Armory GI or an Ithaca.

If I get the Springfield I'd plan to mod it over time and really learn about 1911's since it would be my first.

On the other hand I've been considering getting the Ithaca, which is handmade by two guys about 1 - 2 hours drive away from me. I don't know why, but being that close to the manufacturer adds some value to me. It comes out of the box pretty much how I would eventually setup the GI.

Any recommendations or experience with either gun?

[MP0WER]

Collins, this is for you... Click Here

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by MP0WER

Collins, this is for you... Click Here

This is the one

[solefald]

All right! Here we go.

Picked up my Springer Loaded and kids/gfs Remington 870 Youth. Obviously had to stop by a range on the way home...

This thing is excellent. First 7 at 10 yards.



And here it is. This is THE best under-$1000 1911 money can buy.





With reinforcements.



The Sticks. Remington 870 Youth & Mossberg 930




Sorry, my apartment does not have adequate lighting or background surface to show a gun. Everything is either dark brown or black and lights are plain retarded. I should take these guys to my friend's photo studio to get some glamour shots done

[justinnum1]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

This is the one

thats a fucking bad ass gun, what model is that

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by justinnum1

thats a fucking bad ass gun, what model is that

Sig 1911 TACOPS

[MP0WER]

Originally Posted by solefald

All right! Here we go.

Picked up my Springer Loaded and kids/gfs Remington 870 Youth. Obviously had to stop by a range on the way home...

This thing is excellent. First 7 at 10 yards.

And here it is. This is THE best under-$1000 1911 money can buy.

With reinforcements.

The Sticks. Remington 870 Youth & Mossberg 930

Sorry, my apartment does not have adequate lighting or background surface to show a gun. Everything is either dark brown or black and lights are plain retarded. I should take these guys to my friend's photo studio to get some glamour shots done

Nice!! Glad you finally got to get some trigger time with your new springer. Looks awesome!

Glamour shots for sure!!

[CollinsE90]

What are some good bags to carry to the range?

Good= cheap and reliable.

[solefald]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

What are some good bags to carry to the range?

Good= cheap and reliable.

I just use one of these. Got it on sale at Ace Hardware for $5 couple of years ago.
Fits my gun WITH the Pelican 1170 case, 300 rounds of ammo, eyes, ears and bunch of small things.

http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-1...p-00937535000P

[MP0WER]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

This is the one

That is a sweet looking pistol for sure!

I took the Sig and NHC out to the range last night. I didn't get to do a whole lot of side by side comparison because i had my nephew and his wife with me. I was entertaining since they were in town.

Anyhow, there were two distinct differences between the two pistols that i could see from putting about 50 rounds through each. I also got to observe my nephew put about 50 rounds through each as well. Accuracy and Malfunctions.

Results: NHC had a tighter grouping for each of us. For me the grouping was marginal at 7 yds. However at 25 yds it was substantial.

At 7 yds i made about 2" groups for 8 rounds with the NHC. With the Sig i was about 3" for 8 rounds at the same distance.

At 25 yds i made about 5" groups for 8 rounds with the NHC. With the Sig i only got 3 rounds in the same 5" group.


What's difference? My guess is the trigger; on the NHC breaks at 3.5 pounds with hardly any movement prior to breaking. The Sig has a millimeter or two of movement before breaking at 5 pounds. The other differences are that the serrations of the Sig are much sharper and deeper and the shape is nearly straight.

So will some trigger work on the Sig make up the difference? I wonder how much some trigger work and some feed ramp polishing would cost from a gunsmith? Which brings me to the other difference between the two pistols.

The Sig unfortunately had 3 failure to feeds while shooting. Two of them happened with my nephews wife shooting and one happened with me. The feed ramp of the Sig looks like it has a brushed finish while the feed ramp of the NHC is polished to a glass mirror finish. It really feels like glass when you touch it. I'm using wilson combat mags in the Sig so i'm guessing the feed ramp has something to do with it.

I really like the Sig so i'm going to either contact Sig about the issues and see if they will do anything about it or look into getting the polishing and trigger work done. People keep telling me that it's barely broken in but i believe that with yesterday included that makes about 500 rounds run through it. I would think that it should be broken in now. I've heard good things about Sig customer service. I'll let you know what i hear back from them.

[MP0WER]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

What are some good bags to carry to the range?

Good= cheap and reliable.

I just got one of these on Amazon for $49 shipped. http://www.sportlockllc.com/cgi-bin/...tion&key=00005

Like it quite a bit. Holds 2 fullsize 1911s on one side and the other side had a Glock 22, 150 rounds of ammo, eyes, ears, 8 extra mags and plenty of targets folded up.

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by MP0WER

That is a sweet looking pistol for sure!

I took the Sig and NHC out to the range last night. I didn't get to do a whole lot of side by side comparison because i had my nephew and his wife with me. I was entertaining since they were in town.

Anyhow, there were two distinct differences between the two pistols that i could see from putting about 50 rounds through each. I also got to observe my nephew put about 50 rounds through each as well. Accuracy and Malfunctions.

Results: NHC had a tighter grouping for each of us. For me the grouping was marginal at 7 yds. However at 25 yds it was substantial.

At 7 yds i made about 2" groups for 8 rounds with the NHC. With the Sig i was about 3" for 8 rounds at the same distance.

At 25 yds i made about 5" groups for 8 rounds with the NHC. With the Sig i only got 3 rounds in the same 5" group.


What's difference? My guess is the trigger; on the NHC breaks at 3.5 pounds with hardly any movement prior to breaking. The Sig has a millimeter or two of movement before breaking at 5 pounds. The other differences are that the serrations of the Sig are much sharper and deeper and the shape is nearly straight.

So will some trigger work on the Sig make up the difference? I wonder how much some trigger work and some feed ramp polishing would cost from a gunsmith? Which brings me to the other difference between the two pistols.

The Sig unfortunately had 3 failure to feeds while shooting. Two of them happened with my nephews wife shooting and one happened with me. The feed ramp of the Sig looks like it has a brushed finish while the feed ramp of the NHC is polished to a glass mirror finish. It really feels like glass when you touch it. I'm using wilson combat mags in the Sig so i'm guessing the feed ramp has something to do with it.

I really like the Sig so i'm going to either contact Sig about the issues and see if they will do anything about it or look into getting the polishing and trigger work done. People keep telling me that it's barely broken in but i believe that with yesterday included that makes about 500 rounds run through it. I would think that it should be broken in now. I've heard good things about Sig customer service. I'll let you know what i hear back from them.

Yea man let me know on that. I still have the rest of the year to get any info I can. Dropping off mine today to ship back to SA. They say it'll be a 10 day turn around hopefully.

[MP0WER]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

Yea man let me know on that. I still have the rest of the year to get any info I can. Dropping off mine today to ship back to SA. They say it'll be a 10 day turn around hopefully.

I'm impressed. So far so good. Called them at 5:26pm and had the email below at 5:32pm. Note that they say i should have it back within 2 weeks of them receiving it. Nice!

Your Service Request number is: 682566

Please pack up the gun(s) in their case (include the magazines only if there is a feed or slide-related concern), and put inside one shipping box. Print out the shipping label and take to your local FedEx location and they will ship it 2nd Day Air to us and will be sent back to your address via FedEx 2nd Day Air - adult signature will be required (NOTE: RIFLES WILL SHIP GROUND). You will receive an e-mail notifying you on the day it leaves our facility and should expect it two business days later (no weekends).

-DO NOT SHIP LIVE AMMO (Spent casings are acceptable only for diagnostic needs)
-CHECK & CLEAR your firearm and magazines of ammunition before shipping
-CHECK IT AGAIN

BEFORE YOU SHIP IT OFF:

-Check your information on the label for accuracy & let me know if any changes need to be made
-Please include a brief note for the gunsmith outlining any issues and the ammo.
-Be sure any aftermarket accessories or parts are removed from the gun and/or case prior to shipping (Sig Sauer will not be responsible for damage to accessories during transit)
- If you are including a letter which involves the addition or modification of a service or repair that has not previously been discussed with Sig Sauer Customer Service, you MUST contact Sig Sauer Customer Service prior to shipping the firearm so the appropriate adjustments can be made in your work order & account notes.

You should have your serviced or upgraded gun back 2 weeks from the day we receive it.

Please let me know if you have any questions, and thank you for supporting Sig Sauer products!

[CollinsE90]

I had a very similar experience with SA. Good to hear from Sig, too.