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      03-10-2014, 03:52 PM   #1
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How much HP and TQ?

I drive a 2007 E93 manual. I am about to install an AFE intake with the scoops, AR catted downpipes, and will flash the ECU with Cobb V2 Stage 2 aggressive map with linear throttle. I have fresh tires, always burn 93 octane, and everything else is stock and in good condition.

Just out of curiosity, about how much horsepower and torque am I looking at? Both at the crankshaft and at the wheels.

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at the wheels 370-380hp, 390tq

crank (adding 15%) 425-440hp, 450tq
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at the wheels 370-380hp, 390tq

crank (adding 15%) 425-440hp, 450tq
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I drive a 2007 E93 manual. I am about to install an AFE intake with the scoops, AR catted downpipes, and will flash the ECU with Cobb V2 Stage 2 aggressive map with linear throttle. I have fresh tires, always burn 93 octane, and everything else is stock and in good condition.

Just out of curiosity, about how much horsepower and torque am I looking at? Both at the crankshaft and at the wheels.
The best estimate is going to come from a dyno! Go find one and pay $35-$75 for typically three pulls!
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i would also highly suggest a FMIC. its the second most important mod after the tune IMO. for example cobb stage1+FMIC runs more load than stage 2.
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The best estimate is going to come from a dyno! Go find one and pay $35-$75 for typically three pulls!
where the heck are you getting pulls done for $75, let alone $35? Is that normal pricing in the states?

I agree on going to a dyno though. Op, you should go and get a baseline before you install and then go back after install to see what your gains are.

Hard to give a number as different dynos can read significantly different. See my sig. Those runs were done on the same say.
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where the heck are you getting pulls done for $75, let alone $35? Is that normal pricing in the states?

I agree on going to a dyno though. Op, you should go and get a baseline before you install and then go back after install to see what your gains are.

Hard to give a number as different dynos can read significantly different. See my sig. Those runs were done on the same say.
shop i go to gives you 3 pulls for a 100 i havent seen a place charge more then that.
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where the heck are you getting pulls done for $75, let alone $35? Is that normal pricing in the states?
any dyno day, where they have multiple cars rather than making an individual appointment,
here in cali I paid $50 for 3 pulls on an AWD dyno, they normally charge $175
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The best estimate is going to come from a dyno! Go find one and pay $35-$75 for typically three pulls!
$35 pulls? Where? Sign me up!

Lowest I've seen was $75 for 3 pulls. Normally $100-125. I guess it depends on where you live and who you know though.

I'm talking about regular days, not dyno days where they have a 25 or more cars coming in at one time.
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i would also highly suggest a FMIC. its the second most important mod after the tune IMO. for example cobb stage1+FMIC runs more load than stage 2.
LOL in HOTlana he will need dual stage intercoolers with CO2 sprayers and 4 stage meth kit to keep temps down...HOTlana weather fail
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350whp. IMO
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$35 pulls? Where? Sign me up!

Lowest I've seen was $75 for 3 pulls. Normally $100-125. I guess it depends on where you live and who you know though.

I'm talking about regular days, not dyno days where they have a 25 or more cars coming in at one time.
Dallas, Texas area. Every now and then our group gets discounts at the shops some of our members work at.
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My e90 with a stage 2+ sport fmic made 360 rwhp on 91 octane. Full exhaust, dp, fmic, charge pipe/bov, intake, cobb. I am at 400 rwhp on stage 2+fmic aggressive v402 w/ 93 octane.
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I pulled 380whp on stage 2+ aggressive on 93 octane. Catless dp, fmic, charge pipe/bov, intake, cobb. Since your downpipes are catted, I'd guess 360-370 whp depending on temps and altitude.
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