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      12-02-2005, 12:52 PM   #105
Garrett
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Originally Posted by spitfire6000
This is one thing that i never really understood.

Benz easily mass produces silky smooth cars like the CL55 and 65 which have over 500 horses and over 520 torque and over 700 torque on the 65 model and all of that coming from supercharged V8s.

With bmw, the best they can do with a V10 is a little over 500hp and torque numbers in the 300s.

Not only that, but despite the benzes weighing tons more than any bmws in production, they accelerate FAR FAR quicker than anything bmw can throw out...and all of that from what are called the best standard 7 speed automatic trannys in the world.

MB makes extensive use of varying suspensions on their cars. Unlike bmw which only tailors stiff sporty suspensions in any kind of driving, the benzes drive like lexuses on strait roads, but when twisties come up, the suspensions stiffen themselves and do not permit any body roll. Thus, the car handles almost as well as a sports car. In fact, if anyone has ever had any experience with these cars, they would know that all benzes handle like they weigh over 1000 pounds lighter.

Point is...how come BMW doesnt analyze their competition and take tricks they use and incorporate them into their own cars? I think if bmw utilized the best things from all of their competitors, they would be completely untouchable in this business.


MB's are paper tigers ...!!

Your looking soley at stats and specs and not how they all work together. Your assuming because on paper they have performance that once your behind the wheel they achieve it. MB's are well build LUXURY cars. BMW's are machines.

You tout the performance and HP/TQ figures from the CL55 AMG ($121,000) and the CL65 AMG($180,000) cars then ask a mudane question of why...?

BMW knows how to put their HP to the ground and the result is a silky smooth effortless Bimmer !! The ///M5 will easily out handle and perform the CL55 AMG. And you can't dismiss the $40,000 difference in price. Plus, the M5 has more horsepower !!!

I fail to see your point...!

Secondly, if you look at MB's sedans compaired to BMW's at the same price range, BMW gives your a driving enthusiast experience... not a cushy quite executive feel. Your comparisons are severly skewed because you don't compair cars based on Class/Price.

Mercedes has nothing over BMW, their a different market and a different crowd.


-Garrett


(PS: Explain to me again why Mercedes weigh so much...?)

Last edited by Garrett; 12-02-2005 at 01:23 PM..
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