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      01-16-2013, 06:01 AM   #83
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Originally Posted by Rowdy View Post
It is not a sports car or a grand touring machine either. Its been purposely placed in it's own little special category that nothing else seems to fit, and I understand why GM has done that. But thats why I'm saying, the second anyone tries to compare it to any of the more upscale sports, super or GT cars.. that it really doesnt compare to anything! Its just not in the same sphere.. regardless of the price. Dont agree? Then look at how many vettes sell outside of North America

I think again, you're one who's comparing apples to nikes.. fair enough.. but lets look more closely. Not sure why you chose to compare a four door sedan to a 2 door pony car..

The 4 door 335i and the 2 door and much more svelte 135i are also dastically different beasts. Lets look at some facts (I LIKE the look of the current stang mind you and I'm a huge 65-66 fan!) But it drove like a can of smashed arseholes in MY opinion. Sure you might disagree.. but here.. lets look at the comparison and specs.. straight from the manufacturer..
The mustang weighs in at just shy of 3700lbs (base, stick, no sunroof or AC) the 135.. 3200lbs. The mustang makes a stellar 420hp and 390ft/lb torque (when run on premium +92 octane fuel, down to 402 otherwise)from it's 5.0L to the bmws 300/300 out of a 3.0L six. The stang is only just a touch longer with a wheelbase of 107in to the bmws 105. they are both 4 seat, 2 door coupes. They both come with either 6spd manuals or Automatics, the bmw gets 20/28 city/highway, the mustang slugs to 15/25. Mustang runs the 1/4 in 13.4, identical to whats listed for the 135i! hmmm.. now.. that brembo brake package you mentioned is not standard($2200 option!), nor are many of the other go fast goodies that help it accelerate, handle and brake harder.. Base vs base.. we're looking at close prices too. Here in canuck land.. you're look at 41,943 out the door for a BASE GT.. and the 135i at 42,706.. Hmmmmm..

I wanted to love the mustang.. I really did.. but the 1'er just seemed to be the better alternative for me. Yes.. the 135i NEEDS a better diff.. and the mustang NEEDS a proper rear suspension. Point for point right I think its a much better comparison than say a z06 to an M6.. which was my point initially. Lets compare vehicles that are in similar categories!

I still stand behind my opinion that the vette is ugly.
The new Vette looks fine, it's the 1 series that's UGLY. Most online car sites referred to the new Vette's pics as car porn.
When the 1 series was introduce the universal consensus was and is that it's Ugly. Although it doesn't look as ugly to me as it first did.
You want a good lookin BMW get the porky F10, new 6 series, E92 M3 etc. Those X3's are pretty ugly too with cheap interiors like the 1 series.
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