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Originally Posted by upstatedoc
Not a keeper.
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No doubt!
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Originally Posted by CirrusSR22
I very specifically mentioned the 911 and Boxster models, not overall Porsche sales. They are both excellent cars. Cayenne, Panamera and Cayman sales are up bringing the brand's overall sales up.
Here's my data.
http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2014/04...4-ytd.html?m=0
And I highly doubt I've ever trashed ANY car in the internet. My stance is almost always defending good cars from badge whores. I've never liked GM in past, but I give credit where it's due. The C7, ATS, CTS, and later Camaros are legit good cars. I'd happily drive most any car made today.
And that 3-Series vs. ATS article. I could bold just as many points where they say the ATS handles better, brakes better and has better steering feel. And that's not to rip the BMW (I'm on my 5th now), it's to counter the people that blindly think BMW is the be-all end-all.
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My apologies, i didn't mean to infer that you were trashing anyone's choice in vehicle. That was a you, "in general" statement.
My bolding of the articles statements was a possible explanation as to why some people won't look to GM cars as an alternative to a 3 series. Mainly the part about how GM is emulating, knocking off the 3 series essentially.
Clearly GM is making good vehicles, their sales being up in 2013 is additional proof. But they are still a little ways off to a complete package. At least according to consumers and Car & Driver.
From Porsche NA: