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Originally Posted by fermion
yea, i'm sure saving as many lives as possible was a major concern in tiananmen square and in tibet...
by your logic, the entire world is african as we all descended from there at some point. calling the people in taiwan chinese is like calling the americans english.
taiwan has a totally different culture, government system and even speak chinese with a different accent. taiwan values freedom, democracy and is a thoroughly modern first world country. china values oppression, communist party dictatorship, and the average person earns $3000 a year. i don't understand how people can consider taiwan and china as even remotely the same.
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Originally Posted by rdsport323
it has nothing to do with looking down on other people... but, if people ask.. I'd prefer to say I was Taiwanese and not Chinese... simple as that. Besides, hearing the stories of what the Chinese people did to the Taiwanese people back during the war, could justify why I am indifferent towards China... I wasn't alive then but I could care less about China now.
But regardless, this thread is about donating to the earthquake victims... and I agree with someone that posted earlier that China has more than enough money to take care of themselves.. they just choose not to.
and lastly, Taiwanese and Chinese languages are different... we don't have the annoying "R" sound after every word.
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Originally Posted by rdsport323
Trying going a year without using/buying/eating/crafting anything thats NOT made in China... I really doubt you could do it. So, since China makes almost everything we use daily, how could they not afford to take care of their victims?...
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Originally Posted by fermion
china holds $1.6 trillion dollars in foreign currency reserves. that's just money that is literally sitting there (mostly in the form of us government bonds). china does not NEED donations. if they speak of money shortcomings, its just the communist government refusing to spend money to help their own people.
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Originally Posted by fermion
donating to burma is also a waste. there are literally hundreds of tons of supplies sitting on airfields in thailand unable to reach the people who really need it because the military government refuses to grant clearance for more foreign aid workers.
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Originally Posted by rdsport323
and you know this how? are you posting from China as we speak? don't believe everything you read...
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Originally Posted by fermion
the reason they bitch is that they have not been given religious freedom in over FIFTY years. they are also seeing their culture being destroyed daily by the thousands of chinese immigrants sent to tibet by the communist regime to tip the demographics. the chinese government is literally working to make the tibetans a minority in their own homeland. the tibetans bitching is not an embarassment. the real embarassment is that this type of cultural genocide is allowed to occur in the 21th century.
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Originally Posted by fermion
you're kidding right?
tibet is the most impoverished region in an already impoverished china.
if you mean the privilege to be thrown in jail without charge and the privilege to be arrested if you display a picture of the dalai lama or the tibetan flag, then i will agree with you, the tibetans have more "privileges"
they just lack one little thing, freedom itself
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Originally Posted by fermion
china's biggest problem is that the current generation growing up there has no memories of tianamen square and the government has successfully suppressed any information about the incident. its shocking the number of young people from china who don't know the truth behind the incident. i've spoken to ones who believe that the tiannamen square uprising was instigated by foreigners seeking to destablize the country and destroy the socialist revolution.
it is sad that these chinese youths ferverently support the same government that used tanks and machineguns to massacre thousands of students their own age in 1989.
that being said, the earthquake has had the positive effect of opening up the media slightly and raising the taboo topic of rampant communist party corruption. hopefully this new focus on china will let the overseas communists see what is wrong with their homeland and spread the message when they go home.
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hallo? if u dun want to donate or support this thread
and all u want to talk about is Taiwanese and Chinese, culture, government system and problems...."WE DUN FUCKING CARE....AND GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS THREAD AND MAKE UR OWN THREAD"
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