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It's incredibly intriguing that the "nah, this is impossible" crowd (and also climate change deniers, apparently) repeatedly refutes the idea of simply starting anything.

13 years is quite a while. I'm assuming every single one of you is rational enough to agree that there's some unthought-of advancement that could make this feasible in "X" amount of time.

The crowd shouting that EVs are not the future (and that we shouldn't take any steps now to make change) seem to be the same crowd that would have an absolute aneurysm if they were forced to buy a mild-hybrid 4-cyl because of ICE emission constraints.

So let me ask: those of you who can't (or refuse to) get behind the EV wave:

In the event we kept improving ICE engines to meet more and more strict emissions (which anyone with an engineering degree knows is virtually impossible on the combustion side, so the deficit must be offset by the EV portion of the engine), are you truly stating that you'd take some triple-catted AMG 4-cyl with a hybrid system (the most power 4 pot in the world is AMG's turbo M139 making 400 hp) over a 500+ hp EV?

It seems like it's less and less about power and more about hugging gasoline, which is quite odd for an enthusiasts' forum.